Hello,
I am 52 years old, pretty asthmatic and out of shape (109 kg). I have been running, but have not done any rowing for years. five years ago I had a PR of 7:09 for the 2 k, now I have just done the Step Test and finished the last all-out section of four minutes with a 2:02 pace.....
My goal is to get back in shape, i.e. to lose weight and get faster. I will post my training results here and am looking forward to your feedback.
Andre Hilhorst
Big asthmatic guy wants to give a new try
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Big asthmatic guy wants to give a new try
Oude astmatische dikzak gaat er tegenaan!
Andre,
Welcome back to rowing!
I suggest you find a good program, whether it's the C2 Training Program, Pete's Plan, the Wolverine Plan, or even Fletcher's Marathon Plan that meets your time constraints and helps you work toward your goals. Use the tests quarterly to adjust your efforts/goals. don't be afraid to back down your goals if your'e not improving as rapidly as you would like. Contrawise, step it up if you're getting stronger at a faster rate than your original target projects.
If you have a heart rate monitor use that at least initally to monitor your efforts until you're confident that you can gauge your efforts without being a slave to the dictates of the readout. Some rowers like using the HR as their guide in all training. Others can perceive their efforts and find the HR guides to be out of whack for their fitness level.
Whatever you do, stick with it. You'll be surprised at your acheivements.
Welcome back to rowing!
I suggest you find a good program, whether it's the C2 Training Program, Pete's Plan, the Wolverine Plan, or even Fletcher's Marathon Plan that meets your time constraints and helps you work toward your goals. Use the tests quarterly to adjust your efforts/goals. don't be afraid to back down your goals if your'e not improving as rapidly as you would like. Contrawise, step it up if you're getting stronger at a faster rate than your original target projects.
If you have a heart rate monitor use that at least initally to monitor your efforts until you're confident that you can gauge your efforts without being a slave to the dictates of the readout. Some rowers like using the HR as their guide in all training. Others can perceive their efforts and find the HR guides to be out of whack for their fitness level.
Whatever you do, stick with it. You'll be surprised at your acheivements.
M 64 76 kg
"Sit Down! Row Hard! Go Nowhere!"
"Sit Down! Row Hard! Go Nowhere!"
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Thank you Tabbrows,
I appreciate it! My first week has gone by fast. The first row was 2 * 20 minutes (2:18, 2:17), the second 2*20 (2:17, 2:16), the third 3 * 15 (2:15, 2:14, 2:12). And today I plan to do a leisurely 60 minutes at 2:20, just to burn fat. These speeds may seem excessively slow to most people, but the 2:12 gave me a nice burn in the biceps, and all the sessions were difficult enough for me. I use my perceived heart rate to set the pace, just fast enough, but not too fast.
To make it a full aerobic workout I fill up each trainingsession on the elliptical trainer we have (Titanium, a long-stroke). After the rowing it takes a couple of minutes for the blood to reach the different muscles and then.... sweat all around!
I am looking forward to next week
. My plan is to emphasise long intervals (of 10 to 20 minutes) to get my muscles, tendons and blood vessels used to rowing. After the 4th week a new Step Test to gauge my progress.
BTW: Did everyone see Kirsten van der Kolk and Marit van Eupen win the 2x in Beijing? Great little ladies from Holland!
I appreciate it! My first week has gone by fast. The first row was 2 * 20 minutes (2:18, 2:17), the second 2*20 (2:17, 2:16), the third 3 * 15 (2:15, 2:14, 2:12). And today I plan to do a leisurely 60 minutes at 2:20, just to burn fat. These speeds may seem excessively slow to most people, but the 2:12 gave me a nice burn in the biceps, and all the sessions were difficult enough for me. I use my perceived heart rate to set the pace, just fast enough, but not too fast.
To make it a full aerobic workout I fill up each trainingsession on the elliptical trainer we have (Titanium, a long-stroke). After the rowing it takes a couple of minutes for the blood to reach the different muscles and then.... sweat all around!
I am looking forward to next week
. My plan is to emphasise long intervals (of 10 to 20 minutes) to get my muscles, tendons and blood vessels used to rowing. After the 4th week a new Step Test to gauge my progress.BTW: Did everyone see Kirsten van der Kolk and Marit van Eupen win the 2x in Beijing? Great little ladies from Holland!
Oude astmatische dikzak gaat er tegenaan!
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Hi Andre.
A few years ago, your performances were an example for me. I was hoping to reach your 7:09 PB withing 1 or 2 years. I didn't succeed, PB is 7:15, but I am still in shape, did a 6K @1:56 recently and hope to PB on the 2K this year.
Maybe, I can serve as a target for you this year.
Tom, the Netherlands
A few years ago, your performances were an example for me. I was hoping to reach your 7:09 PB withing 1 or 2 years. I didn't succeed, PB is 7:15, but I am still in shape, did a 6K @1:56 recently and hope to PB on the 2K this year.
Maybe, I can serve as a target for you this year.
Tom, the Netherlands
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In theory you are banned nowAndreHilhorst wrote:But mine is a "true" PM2, without the +, there is no interface possibility.
Does this mean I am barred from Dutch Rowpros now?
Andre
. But there are a few Dutch Rowpros that never use Rowpro. So please stay 
You could buy a PM3 though. In the near future as an incentive (beloning) for some nice rowing results.
Tom
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Re: Big asthmatic guy wants to give a new try
Hallo Andre,AndreHilhorst wrote:Hello,
I am 52 years old, pretty asthmatic and out of shape (109 kg). I have been running, but have not done any rowing for years. five years ago I had a PR of 7:09 for the 2 k, now I have just done the Step Test and finished the last all-out section of four minutes with a 2:02 pace.....
My goal is to get back in shape, i.e. to lose weight and get faster. I will post my training results here and am looking forward to your feedback.
Andre Hilhorst
Nice to see you here and that you are rowing again! I wish you lots of success ---> keep on rowing
Hennie
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Andre,
The C2 uk site's heath and fitness forum referenced an interesting article out of theLondon Guardian. Breathing exercises.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... ng.fitness
You may want to try some of these.
ST
The C2 uk site's heath and fitness forum referenced an interesting article out of theLondon Guardian. Breathing exercises.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/ ... ng.fitness
You may want to try some of these.
ST
M 64 76 kg
"Sit Down! Row Hard! Go Nowhere!"
"Sit Down! Row Hard! Go Nowhere!"
Asthmatics
There are plenty of us and we are in good company, Mike Caviston is a fellow sufferer.
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AndreHilhorst
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So now two weeks have gone by, and I have used them reasonably well. The training has found a place in our family’s schedule. And… it’s fun and the worst fatigue has faded away to normal proportions.
My training routine consist of these building blocks:
• 60 minutes strong;
• 4 * 10 minutes to 3 * 15 minutes;
• 6 * 5 minutes;
• 5 * 500 meters.
• This should give me an aerobic base and all the conditiong my old frame needs.
I have noticed my heart rate going up to 173 on the final 5 minutes interval (going very strong, not all-out). On the elliptical trainer it stays around 150, but when I add the elliptical to a spedd session on the rower it stays at 160 for the full 20 minutes I am on the machine. That’s hard, but not too hard. I guess I can still take a bit of punishment….
My training in more detail:
Week 1 2 * 20 ( 2:16), 3 * 15 (2:14,5) and 60 minutes at 2:17
Week 2 4 * 10 (2:15. . 2:10), 6 * 5 (2:09, last 2:04) and 5 * 500 meters (1:58, last 1:54)
Week 3 4 * 10 (2:15 .. 2:06), 6 * 5 (2:07 , last 2:01) and 30 minutes at 2:12,5, 17 SPM (last minute at 1:53 22 SPM).
Sometimes after rowing I fill the hour with time on the elliptical trainer at 200 Watts.
Progress is still there, I expect a plateau in a month or so. Still, till that moment I feel great. Hoping to start losing a bit of weight…
And.. it's good to hear about other people with not-too-great lungs. I just don't like the unpredictability of my lungs. Still, at the moment it's going well. Not too much pollen around, little stress, good medication! Now the cold and damp is coming, we'll see how well I am prepared!
My training routine consist of these building blocks:
• 60 minutes strong;
• 4 * 10 minutes to 3 * 15 minutes;
• 6 * 5 minutes;
• 5 * 500 meters.
• This should give me an aerobic base and all the conditiong my old frame needs.
I have noticed my heart rate going up to 173 on the final 5 minutes interval (going very strong, not all-out). On the elliptical trainer it stays around 150, but when I add the elliptical to a spedd session on the rower it stays at 160 for the full 20 minutes I am on the machine. That’s hard, but not too hard. I guess I can still take a bit of punishment….
My training in more detail:
Week 1 2 * 20 ( 2:16), 3 * 15 (2:14,5) and 60 minutes at 2:17
Week 2 4 * 10 (2:15. . 2:10), 6 * 5 (2:09, last 2:04) and 5 * 500 meters (1:58, last 1:54)
Week 3 4 * 10 (2:15 .. 2:06), 6 * 5 (2:07 , last 2:01) and 30 minutes at 2:12,5, 17 SPM (last minute at 1:53 22 SPM).
Sometimes after rowing I fill the hour with time on the elliptical trainer at 200 Watts.
Progress is still there, I expect a plateau in a month or so. Still, till that moment I feel great. Hoping to start losing a bit of weight…
And.. it's good to hear about other people with not-too-great lungs. I just don't like the unpredictability of my lungs. Still, at the moment it's going well. Not too much pollen around, little stress, good medication! Now the cold and damp is coming, we'll see how well I am prepared!
Oude astmatische dikzak gaat er tegenaan!