David - my problem on the West Coast is that C2's day ends at 9PM and Shabbat ends around the same time.
There's always next year.
Gina
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Dena, Thanks for stopping by and letting us know what the official word is. I think Jan (Kona2) was going to create the new profile for us, but maybe she didn't get to it before leaving. It makes the most sense for her to be the one to create and log the meters since she is keeping the stats. We will see if she did when she gets back, I guess.
Here is the C2 info for the summer solstice row in case anyone has not found it yet:
Summer Solstice Row 2008
June 21, 2008
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The 5th Annual Solstice Challenge will take place on Saturday, June 21. On that date, the longest day of the year, we challenge you to row 21,000 meters, on the water or on the Indoor Rower, to celebrate the solstice.
The meters can be accrued from several workouts throughout the day or from one long workout.
While you're at it, you may just as well row an additional 97 meters and make it an official half-marathon of 21,097 meters (the half-marathon does have to be rowed in one sitting, small breaks are allowed, but the rest time needs to be included in the final time for ranking).
Incentives:
Name inclusion on the Summer Solstice Row Honor Board
A specially designed downloadable certificate
Here is the C2 info for the summer solstice row in case anyone has not found it yet:
Summer Solstice Row 2008
June 21, 2008
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The 5th Annual Solstice Challenge will take place on Saturday, June 21. On that date, the longest day of the year, we challenge you to row 21,000 meters, on the water or on the Indoor Rower, to celebrate the solstice.
The meters can be accrued from several workouts throughout the day or from one long workout.
While you're at it, you may just as well row an additional 97 meters and make it an official half-marathon of 21,097 meters (the half-marathon does have to be rowed in one sitting, small breaks are allowed, but the rest time needs to be included in the final time for ranking).
Incentives:
Name inclusion on the Summer Solstice Row Honor Board
A specially designed downloadable certificate
☆~Kristine~☆
I'm showing my lack of knowledge here ... but if you wanted to, could you row after 9pm on Friday night (thus being "in" C2's east-coast oriented Saturday) ... or does Shabbat begin on Friday at dusk? (As you say ... there's always next year!)acrewer wrote: ... my problem on the West Coast is that C2's day ends at 9PM and Shabbat ends around the same time. Gina
Chris
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wow darryl...
congrats on the pb....and thanks for the stats, all the photos, and taking me to your rowing class...
i'm hoping to do the 21m challenge and depending when we do it the 24 our challenge....
go celtics...
barbara
congrats on the pb....and thanks for the stats, all the photos, and taking me to your rowing class...
i'm hoping to do the 21m challenge and depending when we do it the 24 our challenge....
go celtics...
barbara
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Chris,just27 wrote:I'm showing my lack of knowledge here ... but if you wanted to, could you row after 9pm on Friday night (thus being "in" C2's east-coast oriented Saturday) ... or does Shabbat begin on Friday at dusk? (As you say ... there's always next year!)acrewer wrote: ... my problem on the West Coast is that C2's day ends at 9PM and Shabbat ends around the same time. Gina
Chris
Correct. Jewish days go from sunset to sunset, so no luck doing it on Friday either.
David
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Daily Stats
Luna-Stats for June 17, 2008
brought to you in tooty fruity text by DuluthMoose,
subbing for, but not up to Kona2’s usual high standards…. (how could she do this to the team?)
No disclaimer: There are no screw-ups in this report...
or if you don’t find; I’m not in a bind….
Season meters to date = 6,777,318 m!
Total meters for June 17 = 152,583! Great job team!
35 percent of our oars in the water!
Milestones!
An anomaly to report today. No milestones.
....although a certain moose should have had one, but didn’t row. Instead decided to make a big dent in splitting the last 2 full cords of next winter’s firewood in the cool of the morning.
And today's stars are:
Barbara 26,520 m - Half marathon!
Dan 22,281 m - 2 rows as reported by Dan. Thanks!
AJ 18,895 m
Peter H. 14,091 m
Chris 12,057 m
Rodrigo 11,212 m
Kristine 11,146 m
Gina 9,360 m
Tony 7,779 m
Andrea 7,184 m
Pat 7,058 m
Peter V. 5,000 m
Let’s get the drums rolling for Gina and Darryl!
Will they grab those distance milestones before tomorrow?
AJ – Thanks for the comment on the rowing trainer. As to a modern Viking warship: I don’t think the crew on this boat is ready yet for invading Britain. But I can suggest to the instructor that the crew wears Viking helmets and breast plates on the water. It’s been almost 30 years since Duluth has seen a Viking ship, that being the Hjemkomst that practiced sailing in Lake Superior before it sailed to Norway. http://www.hjemkomst-center.com/ship/main.htm And what a sight that was! Personally I think the rowing trainer would make a great party boat with the decking in-between the hulls. Lots of room for coolers and a few grills, etc.
Lesson 2 was rotational 500 meter workouts on C2 (16 rowers on 3 machines) for a hour, waiting to see if the wind would subside. Much more physical on the C2 rowers than the first night. I was glad I had only a light supper. And it wasn’t convenient to record and claim the meters rowed, darn! The wind did subside slightly, so we went out in 12” and subsiding waves and with an occasional wave sloshing over and getting us a little wet. Rowing went better than lesson 1, only 2 crabs caught (none by me, knock on wood), but there were a couple sessions where my side of the rowers completely screwed up. – more or less a free for all with oars flying and hitting each other all over the place. Being in the middle of the boat (port #5), I’d just keep my oar out of the water and try to keep it out of the way of other oars, until some sense of unity would return to follow the stroke. We had a chat on the water about the long pause between the strokes, and found out the strokes were using one count for the row, and a three count for the glide. That was throwing us rookie roweres off. Really it shouldn't have mattered if everyone would just follow the stroke. But after that we had a couple 30 or more stroke sessions and soon found ourselves at least a half mile from the boathouse. Bringing the boat back to mooring on the windward side of a dock proved a little tricky, but he boat and the dock are still in one piece. When getting out of the boat last night, I found out the C2 doesn’t train all of the muscles used in rowing. I definitely had some soreness in the inner thigh muscles!
Summer solstice row is in 3 days!
Way to row!
brought to you in tooty fruity text by DuluthMoose,
subbing for, but not up to Kona2’s usual high standards…. (how could she do this to the team?)
No disclaimer: There are no screw-ups in this report...
or if you don’t find; I’m not in a bind….
Season meters to date = 6,777,318 m!
Total meters for June 17 = 152,583! Great job team!
35 percent of our oars in the water!
Milestones!
An anomaly to report today. No milestones.
....although a certain moose should have had one, but didn’t row. Instead decided to make a big dent in splitting the last 2 full cords of next winter’s firewood in the cool of the morning.
And today's stars are:
Barbara 26,520 m - Half marathon!
Dan 22,281 m - 2 rows as reported by Dan. Thanks!
AJ 18,895 m
Peter H. 14,091 m
Chris 12,057 m
Rodrigo 11,212 m
Kristine 11,146 m
Gina 9,360 m
Tony 7,779 m
Andrea 7,184 m
Pat 7,058 m
Peter V. 5,000 m
Let’s get the drums rolling for Gina and Darryl!
Will they grab those distance milestones before tomorrow?
AJ – Thanks for the comment on the rowing trainer. As to a modern Viking warship: I don’t think the crew on this boat is ready yet for invading Britain. But I can suggest to the instructor that the crew wears Viking helmets and breast plates on the water. It’s been almost 30 years since Duluth has seen a Viking ship, that being the Hjemkomst that practiced sailing in Lake Superior before it sailed to Norway. http://www.hjemkomst-center.com/ship/main.htm And what a sight that was! Personally I think the rowing trainer would make a great party boat with the decking in-between the hulls. Lots of room for coolers and a few grills, etc.
Lesson 2 was rotational 500 meter workouts on C2 (16 rowers on 3 machines) for a hour, waiting to see if the wind would subside. Much more physical on the C2 rowers than the first night. I was glad I had only a light supper. And it wasn’t convenient to record and claim the meters rowed, darn! The wind did subside slightly, so we went out in 12” and subsiding waves and with an occasional wave sloshing over and getting us a little wet. Rowing went better than lesson 1, only 2 crabs caught (none by me, knock on wood), but there were a couple sessions where my side of the rowers completely screwed up. – more or less a free for all with oars flying and hitting each other all over the place. Being in the middle of the boat (port #5), I’d just keep my oar out of the water and try to keep it out of the way of other oars, until some sense of unity would return to follow the stroke. We had a chat on the water about the long pause between the strokes, and found out the strokes were using one count for the row, and a three count for the glide. That was throwing us rookie roweres off. Really it shouldn't have mattered if everyone would just follow the stroke. But after that we had a couple 30 or more stroke sessions and soon found ourselves at least a half mile from the boathouse. Bringing the boat back to mooring on the windward side of a dock proved a little tricky, but he boat and the dock are still in one piece. When getting out of the boat last night, I found out the C2 doesn’t train all of the muscles used in rowing. I definitely had some soreness in the inner thigh muscles!
Summer solstice row is in 3 days!
Way to row!
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So old shells never die, they just become rowing trainers. Those shells look like the ones we used to RACE back in the dark ages of women's rowing [1970's]. The men's team had the carbon fiber boats we had a wooden Pocock named The Big Oak, we lovingly called The Big Joke.
But we won races in it.
I learned to row in a barge. A rectangular flat bottomed barge with 8 seats on each side and a platform in the middle. Now that would have been a great party boat. It didn't go fast, but it was stable. I do remember using arms first and then adding leg movement. I guess things haven't changed much in 30 yrs.
Ah, the crabs, I caught a few. I've even seen rowers catapulted out of a boat. Crabs occur when you feather a blade under the water. The venturi effect of the water going over the curvature of the blade makes it almost impossible to free the oar. On the Erg, feathering is a useless movement, hard to unlearn. Since you are rowing Port, remember it is your right hand that feathers and your left that controls the height of the blade. Feathering a sweep oar is like wringing a dish rag. And yes, eyes on the back of the rower in the 6 seat, no where else. Work on technique now, speed will come. And being fast on the recovery just throws your weight to the stern of the boat, checking it and slowing the acceleration of the stroke. Which is why they teach a 1 count on the slide and a 3 count on the recovery.
Good luck and enjoy the lessons -
Gina
But we won races in it.
I learned to row in a barge. A rectangular flat bottomed barge with 8 seats on each side and a platform in the middle. Now that would have been a great party boat. It didn't go fast, but it was stable. I do remember using arms first and then adding leg movement. I guess things haven't changed much in 30 yrs.
Ah, the crabs, I caught a few. I've even seen rowers catapulted out of a boat. Crabs occur when you feather a blade under the water. The venturi effect of the water going over the curvature of the blade makes it almost impossible to free the oar. On the Erg, feathering is a useless movement, hard to unlearn. Since you are rowing Port, remember it is your right hand that feathers and your left that controls the height of the blade. Feathering a sweep oar is like wringing a dish rag. And yes, eyes on the back of the rower in the 6 seat, no where else. Work on technique now, speed will come. And being fast on the recovery just throws your weight to the stern of the boat, checking it and slowing the acceleration of the stroke. Which is why they teach a 1 count on the slide and a 3 count on the recovery.
Good luck and enjoy the lessons -
Gina
Re: Daily Stats
Today's stats will be posted early evening PDST, (Darryl and Jan are morning people ... I'm not!) so I'll be picking up some double postings on Thursday. Stay tuned!DuluthMoose wrote:Luna-Stats for June 17, 2008
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Lesson #3.
Got to the boathouse a half hour early, because of it being Wednesday night and knowing that the sailboats have their weekly race this evening and the lift bridge would be very busy delaying traffic to the Park Point area of town. The Bay had only a 4" chop, so when everyone arrived, we skipped the C2's and went right out on the water in the trainer. 8 rowers on starboard, 7 on port. Did some review - rowing without legs, backing, and turning the boat. Then headed out rowing, and rowing, and rowing with legs. It was a great session for a bunch of rookies! We rowed at least 12 consecutive minutes and we covered about 1.2 miles. There were a couple crabs on my side (not me), but nice recoveries, so the boat wasn't stopped. Actually helped keep the boat on course because the port side was rowing stronger than starboard. Then (as if our instructor read Gina's post on feathering), our crew was introduced to feathering the oar on each stroke. So that became the monkey wrench to throw us all off for the rest of the evening as we limped back to home port. We were out on the water about 1.5 hours. You think your butts get sore being on a C2 for that long! Try it with your feet inside of bolted on shoes, and your legs up to the knees inside a coffin like narrow opening, no wider than the seat needs to roll on. Sitting still in that position while taking instruction became increasingly difficult to do as the evening progressed. All in all, we were getting better, and it was a very nice evening to be on the water. Darryl
Got to the boathouse a half hour early, because of it being Wednesday night and knowing that the sailboats have their weekly race this evening and the lift bridge would be very busy delaying traffic to the Park Point area of town. The Bay had only a 4" chop, so when everyone arrived, we skipped the C2's and went right out on the water in the trainer. 8 rowers on starboard, 7 on port. Did some review - rowing without legs, backing, and turning the boat. Then headed out rowing, and rowing, and rowing with legs. It was a great session for a bunch of rookies! We rowed at least 12 consecutive minutes and we covered about 1.2 miles. There were a couple crabs on my side (not me), but nice recoveries, so the boat wasn't stopped. Actually helped keep the boat on course because the port side was rowing stronger than starboard. Then (as if our instructor read Gina's post on feathering), our crew was introduced to feathering the oar on each stroke. So that became the monkey wrench to throw us all off for the rest of the evening as we limped back to home port. We were out on the water about 1.5 hours. You think your butts get sore being on a C2 for that long! Try it with your feet inside of bolted on shoes, and your legs up to the knees inside a coffin like narrow opening, no wider than the seat needs to roll on. Sitting still in that position while taking instruction became increasingly difficult to do as the evening progressed. All in all, we were getting better, and it was a very nice evening to be on the water. Darryl
Re: Daily Stats
Luna-Stats for June 18-19, 2008
(Baton change from morning-person Darryl, to evening-person, Chris - couple of 2-day totals here ... )
Total number of meters rowed, season to date: 6,937,917
Total number of meters rowed, June 18-19: 160,599
Percentage of oars in the water:
12 out of 34: 35%
Milestones
Barbara: 800,000
Darryl: 500,000
Peter H: 200,000
Gina: 200,000
And today's stars were:
AJ - 31,690
Barbara - 24,122
Dan - 23,055 (HM, Dan?)
Tony - 15,558
Darryl - 14,771
Peter H -12,281
Chris - 12,000
Peter V - 10,000
Pat - 6,073
Gina - 5,541
Helen - 3,500
Betsy - 2,008
(Baton change from morning-person Darryl, to evening-person, Chris - couple of 2-day totals here ... )
Total number of meters rowed, season to date: 6,937,917
Total number of meters rowed, June 18-19: 160,599
Percentage of oars in the water:
12 out of 34: 35%
Milestones
Barbara: 800,000
Darryl: 500,000
Peter H: 200,000
Gina: 200,000
And today's stars were:AJ - 31,690
Barbara - 24,122
Dan - 23,055 (HM, Dan?)
Tony - 15,558
Darryl - 14,771
Peter H -12,281
Chris - 12,000
Peter V - 10,000
Pat - 6,073
Gina - 5,541
Helen - 3,500
Betsy - 2,008
Re: Daily Stats
Dan - 23,055 (HM, Dan?)
Chris,
No HM this time. but I just finished one that will show up later today.
Great job by you and Darryl.
Congrats to all those mileage makers.
Dan
Chris,
No HM this time. but I just finished one that will show up later today.
Great job by you and Darryl.
Congrats to all those mileage makers.
Dan
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Lesson #4.
Wind calm to 5mph this late afternoon, so I went down to the boat house 45 minutes early and launched my solo canoe for a pre-lesson 2 mile (30 minute) paddle. It was wonderful paddling; slicing through the glass.
Got back to the boathouse just in time to grab an oar and load on the trainer. Our instructor would not be coming this evening, but the college gals took over slave driving duties. No time for ergs this lesson! I did make the mistake of asking a stupid question before we loaded, "Do individuals have a power side (port or starboard) for rowing based on whether they are right or left-handed? (I knew this was certainly true for canoeing..) The evasive answer I got back was, "We don't want rowers to specialize in rowing on just one side; so are there any rowers who haven't rowed on both port and starboard positons? Of course all hands went up, because we had all been rowing in the same spot for 3 nights! So we played musical rowing chairs and loaded, me on starboard #5 spot. Off we went on the calm water, 7 starboard rowers and 7 port rowers. The knowledge gained the past 3 evenings transferred pretty fast to starboard side rowing. However as a group we were sloppier than the night before and we had a very noticeable arc (boat turning toward the port) in our full stroke row, worse than we had ever experienced in previous nights. (My own theory on this - since the majority of folks are right handed, and my guess is a right-handed person's real power side is on starboard, the fact that many right-handed folks first experience rowing on port this lesson likely created a decrease in rowing power on port.) But what do I know. Anyway it was an interesting experience and we rowed at least 5 miles in the 2 hours we were on the water, although we did take the scenic route (not the direct route) the whole time. End of week one lessons. Darryl
Wind calm to 5mph this late afternoon, so I went down to the boat house 45 minutes early and launched my solo canoe for a pre-lesson 2 mile (30 minute) paddle. It was wonderful paddling; slicing through the glass.
Got back to the boathouse just in time to grab an oar and load on the trainer. Our instructor would not be coming this evening, but the college gals took over slave driving duties. No time for ergs this lesson! I did make the mistake of asking a stupid question before we loaded, "Do individuals have a power side (port or starboard) for rowing based on whether they are right or left-handed? (I knew this was certainly true for canoeing..) The evasive answer I got back was, "We don't want rowers to specialize in rowing on just one side; so are there any rowers who haven't rowed on both port and starboard positons? Of course all hands went up, because we had all been rowing in the same spot for 3 nights! So we played musical rowing chairs and loaded, me on starboard #5 spot. Off we went on the calm water, 7 starboard rowers and 7 port rowers. The knowledge gained the past 3 evenings transferred pretty fast to starboard side rowing. However as a group we were sloppier than the night before and we had a very noticeable arc (boat turning toward the port) in our full stroke row, worse than we had ever experienced in previous nights. (My own theory on this - since the majority of folks are right handed, and my guess is a right-handed person's real power side is on starboard, the fact that many right-handed folks first experience rowing on port this lesson likely created a decrease in rowing power on port.) But what do I know. Anyway it was an interesting experience and we rowed at least 5 miles in the 2 hours we were on the water, although we did take the scenic route (not the direct route) the whole time. End of week one lessons. Darryl
Got struck by flu (or something like flu), so no rowing for me yesterday (barely moving - mostly in bed with fever) and today.
Not sure if I can scrap together the 21km tomorrow (I can only hope for a lot of short sessions), especially with a lot of other weekend-specific duties...
Good luck to all who can do the Summer Solstice Row!
(http://www.concept2.com/us/motivation/c ... lstice.asp)
Happy rowing!
Andrea
Not sure if I can scrap together the 21km tomorrow (I can only hope for a lot of short sessions), especially with a lot of other weekend-specific duties...
Good luck to all who can do the Summer Solstice Row!
(http://www.concept2.com/us/motivation/c ... lstice.asp)
Happy rowing!
Andrea