Newbie with a C-Breeze question
Newbie with a C-Breeze question
Hi everyone. I've been reading the forums for about two months now, and in that time I have purchased a Model D with PM3 and a C-Breeze. I was just wondering how to keep the C-Breeze from slipping without using double-sided tape (I don't want to gum up the machine). Also, I noticed greater resistance with the C-Breeze - is that normal? Thanks.
P.S. My next purchase will be RowPro.
P.S. My next purchase will be RowPro.
The c-breeze will change the drag factor you get at a given damper setting. Just need to change the damper a little to get whatever drag factor it is that you want. Rowpro is a great investment, the online sessions are really a blast.
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I'm using a C-Breeze on a Model D without double-sided tape (laziness reasons, not concern with stickiness). I followed the advice on PaulS's website and made the cords really tight, and haven't had a problem since.
I wouldn't have expected an increase in resistance because the drag factor actually drops when you put the product on. I had to push up the damper lever to get a drag similar to what I had before.
Maybe the excellent cooling effect of the C-Breeze made you row faster and hence the feeling of greater resistance.
You won't regret the RowPro purchase either!
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Dave
I wouldn't have expected an increase in resistance because the drag factor actually drops when you put the product on. I had to push up the damper lever to get a drag similar to what I had before.
Maybe the excellent cooling effect of the C-Breeze made you row faster and hence the feeling of greater resistance.
You won't regret the RowPro purchase either!
Cheers
Dave
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I put a C Breeze on a Model D just yesterday, so I understand your confusion. Here are my suggestions:
1) Don't untie the shock cords -- leave as received.
2) With the shock cords tied, the C Breeze makes a large "O" rather than a "C".
3) Stretch the "O" over the fan housing. Make sure the shock cord does not get under the damper arm. The outside edges of the the C Breeze must be inside the raised lips of the fan housing halves where they meet the center silver perferated section.
4) The Model D fan housing has four raised "screw bosses" where the two halves are screwed together. The C Breeze will cover the front two bosses. Simply allow the the C Breeze to "bulge around" these two bosses. (I didn't want to use double sided tape on a new erg!)
5) The shock cords now be routed outside the two screw bosses located at damper positions #1 and #10. To route the shock cord inside the bosses, use a phillips screwdriver to open them carefully one at a time. Don't lose the nut!. Gently spread the bosses apart until there is enough space to slip the shock cords through one at a time. Reattach the screws & nuts and you should be good to go.
Good Luck,
Gary
1) Don't untie the shock cords -- leave as received.
2) With the shock cords tied, the C Breeze makes a large "O" rather than a "C".
3) Stretch the "O" over the fan housing. Make sure the shock cord does not get under the damper arm. The outside edges of the the C Breeze must be inside the raised lips of the fan housing halves where they meet the center silver perferated section.
4) The Model D fan housing has four raised "screw bosses" where the two halves are screwed together. The C Breeze will cover the front two bosses. Simply allow the the C Breeze to "bulge around" these two bosses. (I didn't want to use double sided tape on a new erg!)
5) The shock cords now be routed outside the two screw bosses located at damper positions #1 and #10. To route the shock cord inside the bosses, use a phillips screwdriver to open them carefully one at a time. Don't lose the nut!. Gently spread the bosses apart until there is enough space to slip the shock cords through one at a time. Reattach the screws & nuts and you should be good to go.
Good Luck,
Gary
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Great post Gary!
The "double stick tape" was suggested by a customer and I thought it reasonable enough to include on the web site, but I have never actually had need to use it on a Model D/E. Intead of taking the screws out, I just retie the shock cord under the two front bridges (screw bosses) before arranging the CBreeze as described above. Another thing some customers have found helpful, is to use cord toggles instead of having to tie the cords. This allows for a relatively loose installation and tightening after the fact easily.
The "double stick tape" was suggested by a customer and I thought it reasonable enough to include on the web site, but I have never actually had need to use it on a Model D/E. Intead of taking the screws out, I just retie the shock cord under the two front bridges (screw bosses) before arranging the CBreeze as described above. Another thing some customers have found helpful, is to use cord toggles instead of having to tie the cords. This allows for a relatively loose installation and tightening after the fact easily.
Erg on,
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Thanks for all the help. I got it to stay in place as long as nobody touches it. Instead of using my fan, now I use my C-breeze....AND my fan! LOL I guess I can never be too cool!
Right now I'm really enjoying the paceboat. What I do is I row about a minute and a half to get an idea of my pace. Then I program the paceboat to be a second slower than what I did in that time. Next, because I'm soooo competitive, I make sure that I not only BEAT the paceboat, you can't even see him on the monitor anymore. Sure makes working out a lot of fun.
Right now I'm really enjoying the paceboat. What I do is I row about a minute and a half to get an idea of my pace. Then I program the paceboat to be a second slower than what I did in that time. Next, because I'm soooo competitive, I make sure that I not only BEAT the paceboat, you can't even see him on the monitor anymore. Sure makes working out a lot of fun.
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No RowPro with you then - that's far too competitive for me.dietpeach wrote:What I do is I row about a minute and a half to get an idea of my pace. Then I program the paceboat to be a second slower than what I did in that time. Next, because I'm soooo competitive, I make sure that I not only BEAT the paceboat, you can't even see him on the monitor anymore. Sure makes working out a lot of fun.
It did make me chuckle though.
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When you get RowPro you can row online against real people that you can't program to beat so easily!dietpeach wrote: Right now I'm really enjoying the paceboat. What I do is I row about a minute and a half to get an idea of my pace. Then I program the paceboat to be a second slower than what I did in that time. Next, because I'm soooo competitive, I make sure that I not only BEAT the paceboat, you can't even see him on the monitor anymore. Sure makes working out a lot of fun.
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