Am I a fit fat person?

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by hjs » November 23rd, 2010, 5:05 am

Carl Watts wrote:The slower longer rows are better for weight loss.Get you HR into the UT2 zone and keep it there.It may feel easy to start with, but if you do it for an hour and a half it's not feeling that easy at the finish.

The reason is simple really, longer rows at lower paces are more sustainable from one day to the next.

I find that even if you increase the pace but make the row shorter i.e you effectivley burn the same number of calories or even less calories it still takes more out of you and you may not be able to repeat the same row the next day.
It is indeed as simple at that, if you want to loose weight adopt a healthy, not a starving diet, and start to do exercise, what, how and when doesn,t matter. But you have to do enough, and to do that the intensity can,t be to high.
Things like tabata's etc are nonsens for weightloss. Those can help very fit people lose that last bit of weight, but is not good for people who are not that fit and who have to loose lots of weight.

Dieet, excercise and patience is what you need. If one of the three is missing you will fail.

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Richard441 » November 24th, 2010, 10:59 am

I hear all the same replies which i have been unwilling to accept so far. The diet is still the biggest factor that i need to get in control. i recently found myself debating this with my wife because she was saying the same thing.
For about a year now, i have been trying to track everything on Livestrong.com it is a good site which certainly helps me get a gage of how much crap i have been eating..... problem is that everything is an estimate on portion size etc so i either need to start measuring or take the next step and really clean up the crap in my diet.

i think that i have been hoping that if i keep up the workouts....i will find that balance. i still have along way to go before i can think about a maintenance program......

Fat Jamie, Keep up the good work and i will check back to see how you are doing.

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Carl Watts » November 24th, 2010, 5:50 pm

Yes diet is a factor, however its always just an equation of energy in vs energy out.

Sure you need to eat a balanced diet if you want to maximise your energy levels and wellbeingbut you can also add to that all the extra crap you want to eat as well on top of that if your prepaired to row all those extra calories off again and thats the hard part.

If your a foodie like me then you have also got to start doing the milage to even maintain your current weight, let alone loose weight !

Never take the time to start counting calories here, I just stand on the scales. They are the Judge & Jury.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Fat Jamie » December 1st, 2010, 7:43 pm

update, weighed in at 135.6kg last sunday, 8lb weight loss in last 2 weeks (may need to up the calorie intake for once!) , now a total of 16kg weight loss in just over 12 weeks. But more importantly I managed my first sub 7min 2k on tuesday... 6:58.5.

Totally delighted to have hit that target so soon, and am dedicating it to my lovely dog Charlie whom we had to have put to sleep on the same day. God bless you little Charlie girl x.

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Carl Watts » December 1st, 2010, 8:52 pm

Fat Jamie wrote:update, weighed in at 135.6kg last sunday, 8lb weight loss in last 2 weeks (may need to up the calorie intake for once!) , now a total of 16kg weight loss in just over 12 weeks. But more importantly I managed my first sub 7min 2k on tuesday... 6:58.5.

Totally delighted to have hit that target so soon, and am dedicating it to my lovely dog Charlie whom we had to have put to sleep on the same day. God bless you little Charlie girl x.
That's an awesome effort in such a short time. Just did my first Sub 7 2K last week as well but it has taken me over a year to build up to it. Fantastic effort, keep it up.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Fat Jamie » December 1st, 2010, 9:39 pm

Thanks Carl!

I have a training partner now for added encouragement. Will try for 8000+ metres/30mins before the year is out. Its a great feeling suddenly being able to sustain times that were simply unacheivable only weeks ago.
Getting fit is actually fun! who'd have thought it?...

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by gregsmith01748 » December 1st, 2010, 9:49 pm

Congratulations Jamie!

Nice work on the sub-7 2K and the weight loss.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Carl Watts » December 2nd, 2010, 3:20 am

Fat Jamie wrote:Thanks Carl!

I have a training partner now for added encouragement. Will try for 8000+ metres/30mins before the year is out. Its a great feeling suddenly being able to sustain times that were simply unacheivable only weeks ago.
Getting fit is actually fun! who'd have thought it?...
Yes the 8000M in 30 minutes is the majic mark and IMO it is harder than a sub 7 2K, simply because mentally it's a longer row and your extending the time your having to row at your limit.

RowPro has definatly helped with the longer PB's, Rowing with others keeps you going.

Each different distance requires quite different atributes and the signatures are always interesting in the way the balance of power to endurance tips one way or the other.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Fat Jamie » January 8th, 2011, 9:35 pm

Quick update.

Hit 50lb total weight loss this week, now 288lb and quickly heading toward a sub 20st weight for the first time in approx 13 years.
Also completed first HM in 1h25:46 (slightly disappointed but had to stop three times due to numb glutes!)
Managed 7956m on last 30min row, so knocking on the 8000m door.

have also taken up jogging, had never managed more than a mile in my life previously, but the C2 has strengthened my heart & lungs no end and im able to now jog a 7.5k loop in my neighbourhood, and feel on top of the world as a result!.

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by hjs » January 9th, 2011, 7:20 am

Fat Jamie wrote:Quick update.

Hit 50lb total weight loss this week, now 288lb and quickly heading toward a sub 20st weight for the first time in approx 13 years.
Also completed first HM in 1h25:46 (slightly disappointed but had to stop three times due to numb glutes!)
Managed 7956m on last 30min row, so knocking on the 8000m door.

have also taken up jogging, had never managed more than a mile in my life previously, but the C2 has strengthened my heart & lungs no end and im able to now jog a 7.5k loop in my neighbourhood, and feel on top of the world as a result!.
:D Nice keep going man !!

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by gregsmith01748 » January 9th, 2011, 5:26 pm

Jamie,

Great work! I'm glad to hear how much weight you've lost and how much stronger you are.

What are your plans now?
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by Fat Jamie » January 9th, 2011, 7:14 pm

gregsmith01748 wrote:Jamie,

Great work! I'm glad to hear how much weight you've lost and how much stronger you are.

What are your plans now?

Thanks.

Im planning to enter a couple of 10k runs before summer, including a local 20k ride /10k run / 1k row challenge.

Im now aiming to shift a further 50lb, havent set a target time but june/july seems possible now. TBH, even if I manage it by september that'll be 100lb in one year..

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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by gregsmith01748 » January 9th, 2011, 10:20 pm

Holy crap, that would be a lot of weight to lose in a year. Good luck in the 10Ks.

By the way, that HM time is pretty damn good, especially if you took a couple of breaks.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by WingedFoot » January 16th, 2011, 12:47 am

Not so fat anymore Jamie,

Reading about your successes is inspirational. I was a very competitve rower just a few years ago who fell off the deep end and put on about 100 pounds! I am finished feeling sorry for myself and set a goal..to row in the Head of the Charles this October in the Alumni Eights category. I started my training on January 1st and weighed in a scale tipping 318. Two weeks into eating better and erging at least four times a week I'm down 7 pounds. I am hoping to be down at least 50 pounds by the time on the water training begins in August.
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Re: Am I a fit fat person?

Post by ToddFo » January 16th, 2011, 1:45 am

Keep up the inspirational posts Jamie!

I'm in a boat similar to yours. I was 275 pounds last week, and I'm at 270 this week. I'm just getting started, and it's good to hear from someone who is making it work.

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