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Post by iain » February 16th, 2024, 7:23 am

I think you may need to revisit the meaning of "drag". This is set my the lever so will be higher on 4 than 2. THe value takes into account air density, dirt restricting airflow as well as the setting reducing the airflow so that it equates different machines. lower is a choice and effects the catch, but all are equal, nothing wrong with using a low drag if it works better for you!
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Post by JaapvanE » February 16th, 2024, 11:13 am

p_b82 wrote:
February 16th, 2024, 6:32 am
It's not so much that you're catching the flywheel as it decelerates, but it is more that you are applying a significant accelerative force, which is resisted by the flywheel. I know that might sound like semantics, but it is explaining what you are feeling more accurately.
If the leg drive is not producing enough power to accelerate the flywheel, it will feel as if there's no resistance on that one stroke - or to your use your analogy; you forgot to put the oars in the water & you just went flying back up the slide.
A more accurate analogy would be to put the oars in the water when the boat still had the same speed as the end of the drive: when the boat is too fast, you can't push fast enough to catch up and create momentum.
p_b82 wrote:
February 16th, 2024, 6:32 am
With a high stroke rate, the flywheel doesn't slow quite as much between strokes, so if your power/pace is low, you won't "feel" the flywheel resisting you as much at the catch either.
There is a subtle difference between a light catch (=supurb) and a missed catch. It is only when you really start to compare stroke-by-stroke data on more advanced monitors that you see the difference.
p_b82 wrote:
February 16th, 2024, 6:32 am
watts & pace are the same things being displayed in a different fashion; I have the Force curve on the pm5 - when I want/need to concentrate on my form - with pace & average pace displayed up top, and use watts on ergdata (or ergzone) as I'm not very good at translating the two without seeing the numbers together.
I'm more pace oriented, but I use a similar setup. I also like to see the drive length as it shows if I'm shortening up (sign of fatigue and missed strokes).

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Post by Newfie girl » March 1st, 2024, 8:41 pm

You two are amazing at understanding all of this. I'm just trying to catch my breath and not pass out during my rows. Lol. Last Sunday I hit a wall, or my lungs hit the wall, with exercising and smoking. Couldn't breathe well and had to take a few days break from exercise. Haven't had a cigarette since! A couple good walks along the ocean side to help clear the lungs along with warm mist vaporizer and feeling better. Slowly get the lungs clearer with more walks and rows , so looking forward to what I could be capable of if in good health! I ranked a better time today on 5000m row then before but still have long way to go to get lungs in tip top shape, look out then! Lol. Can't wait for new possibilities. Hoping to join a team for some challenges or training partners to help motivationally in the near future

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Post by Newfie girl » March 1st, 2024, 8:47 pm

Also, wanted to say that I understand about the number on the flywheel now. I went back up to level 4 for my rows as it was much easier and consistent to catch the drag or whatever it's called before I ride back on the slide. So I'll stick with this. Thanks for all your advice

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Post by Dangerscouse » March 2nd, 2024, 1:09 am

Newfie girl wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 8:47 pm
Also, wanted to say that I understand about the number on the flywheel now. I went back up to level 4 for my rows as it was much easier and consistent to catch the drag or whatever it's called before I ride back on the slide. So I'll stick with this. Thanks for all your advice
Good to read these posts.
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Post by iain » March 4th, 2024, 10:23 am

Sounds like you are making good progress. We would welcome you at Free Spirits, a very mixed and friendly team who are supportive while allowing everyone to exercise their way. This month the Cross Team Challenge is the dreaded 2k, so that might influence when you want to start competing :lol:
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Post by Jessicajackson90 » November 28th, 2024, 3:55 pm

Hello, I am new to this forum. I am on the verge of losing weight. I am looking forward to gaining and sharing knowledge regarding the same. Hopefully I would learn quite a lot in here.

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Post by MPx » November 28th, 2024, 6:59 pm

iain wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 10:23 am
This month the Cross Team Challenge is the dreaded 2k
Is it!?!?! I only did 1k - no wonder I'm unusually far up the list ... :D
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Post by Dangerscouse » November 28th, 2024, 7:10 pm

MPx wrote:
November 28th, 2024, 6:59 pm
iain wrote:
March 4th, 2024, 10:23 am
This month the Cross Team Challenge is the dreaded 2k
Is it!?!?! I only did 1k - no wonder I'm unusually far up the list ... :D
Hahahaha. That reply is from March!! 🤣
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Post by Ombrax » November 28th, 2024, 10:44 pm

Jessicajackson90 wrote:
November 28th, 2024, 3:55 pm
Hello, I am new to this forum. I am on the verge of losing weight. I am looking forward to gaining and sharing knowledge regarding the same. Hopefully I would learn quite a lot in here.
Welcome to the forum. :)

Feel free to ask about anything erg-related - we might not know all the answers, but are certainly willing to try.

Good luck on your quest for losing weight, but I'll repeat what I always say regarding that - the battle for weight loss is almost always won in the kitchen, not the gym. Exercising certainly helps, and is a part of the whole process, but assuming you have the willpower, it's a lot easier to not eat the calories in the first place than it is to consume then burn them off.

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Post by iain » November 29th, 2024, 9:46 am

Ombrax wrote:
November 28th, 2024, 10:44 pm
Good luck on your quest for losing weight, but I'll repeat what I always say regarding that - the battle for weight loss is almost always won in the kitchen, not the gym. Exercising certainly helps, and is a part of the whole process, but assuming you have the willpower, it's a lot easier to not eat the calories in the first place than it is to consume then burn them off.
+1 to that. Exercising should help keep your metabolism up so that you aren't faced by your body holding onto every calorie, while you can add a few hundred calories a day that can increase or create the calorie deficit that you need (with the big caveat that it only works if you don't increase food to compensate).

If you let us know your weight, height, age, exercise experience and results so far (distance, time and strokes per minute), we should be able to try and answer any questions you have.
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