This thing really works...
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Hi Hobbit
If your running PB’s are like Dangerscouse’s rowing times, then you were a much better runner than me!
However, that is a good rule of thumb, and my PBS of 19:24 5k and 40:36 10k are almost perfectly in line...
Unfortunately these were at least 5 years ago, and I suspect I have more chance of a sub-20 5k on the rower than I do of being able to run that fast again any time soon
If your running PB’s are like Dangerscouse’s rowing times, then you were a much better runner than me!
However, that is a good rule of thumb, and my PBS of 19:24 5k and 40:36 10k are almost perfectly in line...
Unfortunately these were at least 5 years ago, and I suspect I have more chance of a sub-20 5k on the rower than I do of being able to run that fast again any time soon
Fat boy trying to get slim(mer)
Ashtead, UK
5ft 9; 46; 86kg

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JonWalters wrote:Nice idea Allan... most of my workouts are done with a HRM, and I rather like the idea of being able to measure progress even when focussing solely on endurance/weight loss
Which HRM do you get to sync with the PM5?
I am looking to buy one.
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Any Ant+ compatible HRM. All Garmins will work.aandersen1982 wrote: Which HRM do you get to sync with the PM5?
There are other communication standards supported by the PM5, but i don't remember which.
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The Wahoo TickR works really well for meAllan Olesen wrote:Any Ant+ compatible HRM. All Garmins will work. There are other communication standards supported by the PM5, but i don't remember which.aandersen1982 wrote: Which HRM do you get to sync with the PM5?
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PBs (65y+) 1 min 349m, 500m 1:29.8, 1k 3:11.7 2k 6:47.4, 5km 18:07.9, 30' 7928m, 10k 37:57.2, 60' 15368m
73yo 93kg
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PBs (65y+) 1 min 349m, 500m 1:29.8, 1k 3:11.7 2k 6:47.4, 5km 18:07.9, 30' 7928m, 10k 37:57.2, 60' 15368m
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I have also been happy with it.lindsayh wrote:The Wahoo TickR works really well for meAllan Olesen wrote:Any Ant+ compatible HRM. All Garmins will work. There are other communication standards supported by the PM5, but i don't remember which.aandersen1982 wrote: Which HRM do you get to sync with the PM5?
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Quick update...
I had another attempt at my HM PB today and got it down to 1:34:29.2....
To be honest, I was half hoping I might squeeze under 1:34:00, but I think I got a bit carried away and pushed too hard in between 10-15k, which meant it was bloody hard work, and for the last 10 mins I was really huffing and puffing....
Now I need to update my signature!
Jon
I had another attempt at my HM PB today and got it down to 1:34:29.2....
To be honest, I was half hoping I might squeeze under 1:34:00, but I think I got a bit carried away and pushed too hard in between 10-15k, which meant it was bloody hard work, and for the last 10 mins I was really huffing and puffing....
Now I need to update my signature!
Jon
Fat boy trying to get slim(mer)
Ashtead, UK
5ft 9; 46; 86kg

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I have had a few connection issues with the Tickr but that might be my fault. Apart from that it is good
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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More or less five mins knocked off the PB!?!JonWalters wrote: ↑August 12th, 2018, 11:19 amQuick update...
I had another attempt at my HM PB today and got it down to 1:34:29.2....
To be honest, I was half hoping I might squeeze under 1:34:00, but I think I got a bit carried away and pushed too hard in between 10-15k, which meant it was bloody hard work, and for the last 10 mins I was really huffing and puffing....
Now I need to update my signature!
Jon

This is a good marker to judge your next HM against. Going slower to go faster is counter intuitive but for a HM it does work. Pacing is important and difficult to judge when you start doing longer distances.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Thanks Stu - the 5 min reduction has been achieved in two chunks, and in just over 2 months, so I’m pleased overall with signs of progress...Dangerscouse wrote: ↑August 12th, 2018, 2:37 pm
More or less five mins knocked off the PB!?!great effort.
This is a good marker to judge your next HM against. Going slower to go faster is counter intuitive but for a HM it does work. Pacing is important and difficult to judge when you start doing longer distances.
This may be a daft question, but do people generally recommend negative splits, or doing the 2nd half of a race quicker than the first half?
For example, for this HM I decided to row at 2:15/500m for the first 11,000m, and then I sped up (I was trying to catch-up with a 2:14 pace boat in RowPro). I did this because about a week ago I attempted a HM at a steady pace of 2:14/500, and ending up bailing at 60 mins.
What pacing strategies do others use?
Jon
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I personally prefer to flat pace and maybe neg split for the last 4-5k of a HM. Some days you're just firing on all cylinders and some days you aren't prepared and your head is telling you to give up. That's always a consideration regardless of preferred strategy.JonWalters wrote: ↑August 14th, 2018, 3:32 amThanks Stu - the 5 min reduction has been achieved in two chunks, and in just over 2 months, so I’m pleased overall with signs of progress...Dangerscouse wrote: ↑August 12th, 2018, 2:37 pm
More or less five mins knocked off the PB!?!great effort.
This is a good marker to judge your next HM against. Going slower to go faster is counter intuitive but for a HM it does work. Pacing is important and difficult to judge when you start doing longer distances.
This may be a daft question, but do people generally recommend negative splits, or doing the 2nd half of a race quicker than the first half?
For example, for this HM I decided to row at 2:15/500m for the first 11,000m, and then I sped up (I was trying to catch-up with a 2:14 pace boat in RowPro). I did this because about a week ago I attempted a HM at a steady pace of 2:14/500, and ending up bailing at 60 mins.
What pacing strategies do others use?
Jon
HMs are a mental battle as well as they go on for quite a long time so you are more susceptible to negative thoughts. You will need to build your cardio base, which does take quite a lot of time, then you will be a lot more comfortable on timings, and don't always try and PB; not every day can be the best day. Accept the sessions where you are going slower but still relatively comfortable
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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I would question ... fat burning Zonelindsayh wrote: ↑May 28th, 2018, 6:41 pmif you are primarily using the erg to help with weight loss then longer slower steady pieces is the most important part of your training. Obviously weight loss is mostly connected to what you eat rather than how you exercise but keeping your heart rate and pace in the fat burning range is best and you wont be going fast. Have a look at some good threads here that discuss all that. By doing some good long steady sessions (40+ minutes) you will improve fitness and your longer distances will improve as well. Your 5km+ times seem relatively slower than the shorter ones. Improved fitness will lead to better performances in these ones.