10k on-line race
10k on-line race
Would you compete / participate in an orgainized 10k on-line championship race?
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I was thinking something like the 1k series but over only three months. A total time accumulation looking at the same idea of minimum times awarded for the first two 10k's and then unlimited for the third. The first 10k would be fairly achieveable, the second a struggle, and the third totally balls out. The first being 1:52, the second 1:48, and the third unlimited.
Perhaps, around the weekends of August 31, September 30, and October 31.
A modest medal will be awarded with a design to be determined.
Perhaps, around the weekends of August 31, September 30, and October 31.
A modest medal will be awarded with a design to be determined.
In order to get more people, especially if you do your idea of minimum times, why not make the competition based on weight. Use the standard formula of weight to the 2/9th power. Why should a 140 lbs lightweight have to do the same time as a 200 lbs heavyweight. 1:52 is faster then my PB, but I'm at about the 90th percentile for my category.I was thinking something like the 1k series but over only three months. A total time accumulation looking at the same idea of minimum times awarded for the first two 10k's and then unlimited for the third. The first 10k would be fairly achieveable, the second a struggle, and the third totally balls out. The first being 1:52, the second 1:48, and the third unlimited.
You make a good point. Although, I think height is actually more critically than weight.
Actually, I need some sort of web site. I think some of the sucessful groups use web sites. The only probably with the web site idea is that I would have to maintain it and I sometimes am pressed for time to get a session done.
I think a better idea would be to send out invites to people who I think may want to compete. There is the obvious people on rowpro. There are people that are extremely fast that used to row on rowpro who would probably like the 10k idea more than the idea of doing 1k's.
The only way I will get faster is if I compete at a level that requires consistent strenous training effort achieved only by persistent sessions driven by knowing I have to compete on a certain day. Otherwise, I will lose interest.
It might be better to make it just one 10k done on a certain weekend so as not to conflict with other events like the BIRC. Maybe in November, the weekend before Thanksgiving.
I actually thought of the idea of doing something here in California. The idea would be to put your ergometer in your SUV, drive to the rowing venue which would be near Fresno, California, and compete. Perhaps have some sort of symposium addressing health and training issues in addition to the competition. Something like a Masters age type competition with the symposium on training, cancer, bone problems, adult ADD, nutrition, health issues, quality of life issues, . . . perhaps keep it simple and then expand.
The economy is driving me toward the on-line racing concept.
Actually, I need some sort of web site. I think some of the sucessful groups use web sites. The only probably with the web site idea is that I would have to maintain it and I sometimes am pressed for time to get a session done.
I think a better idea would be to send out invites to people who I think may want to compete. There is the obvious people on rowpro. There are people that are extremely fast that used to row on rowpro who would probably like the 10k idea more than the idea of doing 1k's.
The only way I will get faster is if I compete at a level that requires consistent strenous training effort achieved only by persistent sessions driven by knowing I have to compete on a certain day. Otherwise, I will lose interest.
It might be better to make it just one 10k done on a certain weekend so as not to conflict with other events like the BIRC. Maybe in November, the weekend before Thanksgiving.
I actually thought of the idea of doing something here in California. The idea would be to put your ergometer in your SUV, drive to the rowing venue which would be near Fresno, California, and compete. Perhaps have some sort of symposium addressing health and training issues in addition to the competition. Something like a Masters age type competition with the symposium on training, cancer, bone problems, adult ADD, nutrition, health issues, quality of life issues, . . . perhaps keep it simple and then expand.
The economy is driving me toward the on-line racing concept.
Is there some formula to correct for height? I guess one could use the same physics as used for weight--instead of assuming power is proportional to weight to the 2/3, we would assume power is proportional to height squared, so the speed correction would be proportional to height to the 2/3.Thomas wrote:.... I think height is actually more critically than weight.
So at 5'7 I would only have to go 95% as fast as someone who is 6'. (so a 1:54 for me would be a 1:48 for a 6 footer--I kind of like that. though I'm not sure it is fair)
Anyone have a better idea for correcting for height?
Don't have an SUV, but it fits into my Civic.Thomas wrote: I actually thought of the idea of doing something here in California. The idea would be to put your ergometer in your SUV, drive to the rowing venue which would be near Fresno, California, and compete.
Fresno is too far for me. Make it in the Bay Area and I'm game.
Have some OTW races on Nov.9th and 16th, so those weekends are out.
If there are going to be minimum standards of performance, you might want to mention that in your poll question since there are a lot more of us that can't hold a 1:52 10k than there are that can. I almost ticked yes without reading the posts -- I would not be elligible with a 1:52 cutoff nor would most participating in Ernies' summer race series that has been doing well on Rowpro as of late - his are about the only races hitting rowpro beta's max of 16 participants, and only a handful of them are pulling below that cutoff.
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It is not minimum qualification but instead a minimum awarded time a person could earn. This was the premise behind the 1k series and was intended to allow rowers to improve and at the same time award fast rowers. There were five guys who competed in th 1k series but it dwindled in weeks 6 through 8.badocter wrote:If there are going to be minimum standards of performance, you might want to mention that in your poll question since there are a lot more of us that can't hold a 1:52 10k than there are that can. I almost ticked yes without reading the posts -- I would not be elligible with a 1:52 cutoff nor would most participating in Ernies' summer race series that has been doing well on Rowpro as of late - his are about the only races hitting rowpro beta's max of 16 participants, and only a handful of them are pulling below that cutoff.
It may be better to send out an email to those who may be interested. It may be better to have one 10k.
A few years ago, I did a 2k series based on some major rowing races like the BIRC, EIRC, WIRC, and some other race I don't recall the name. it was a point system based on the 2k times of your ag/weight group.
After I posted all of this, I saw on the Concept 2 UK web site that Finland had a 10k championhip. The times for the Men's Heavyweight 40-49 were paced at or near 1:42. Amazing! I will have to find the results. Perhaps their results could be used in a similar points system I derived for the 2k series.
What sort of time would they be?I think one giant race would be the way to go. Also, I just looked the wieght adjustment calculator, which favors the lighter rower given the same time as a heavier rower. So, we could use that as the medium to determine the winner. The weight calculator is on the Concept 2 US website if anyone would like to take a look.
it is now August 6th. We could try for the end of October. It would give people close to three months to train and experiment.
it is now August 6th. We could try for the end of October. It would give people close to three months to train and experiment.
If you are talking about a one day race, planned in advance, and billed as the online 10k championships or something, I think it is a great idea. Personally, I think digital rowing should be involved and should do something like that several times a year (so emailing Pam and suggesting this to her or getting her involved would be a big help in promotion). Seems like a great way to build interest in rowing and racing online. People could do training rows and test races in advance. There have been variations of this sort of thing over the years, but nothing official and nothing all that well planned, and now the new version allows 16 lanes, so it really becomes possible.
You would need to plan for at least 2 heats: one in the 5-10 GMT range and one in the 15-20 GMT range). I think that would cover the whole world, but maybe I am missing somewhere. End of Oct for 10k is great for me, since after that I think I need to try a serious HM.
You would need to plan for at least 2 heats: one in the 5-10 GMT range and one in the 15-20 GMT range). I think that would cover the whole world, but maybe I am missing somewhere. End of Oct for 10k is great for me, since after that I think I need to try a serious HM.
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Hi Michael. Thanks for the input. I am thinking of a response.michaelb wrote:If you are talking about a one day race, planned in advance, and billed as the online 10k championships or something, I think it is a great idea. Personally, I think digital rowing should be involved and should do something like that several times a year (so emailing Pam and suggesting this to her or getting her involved would be a big help in promotion). Seems like a great way to build interest in rowing and racing online. People could do training rows and test races in advance. There have been variations of this sort of thing over the years, but nothing official and nothing all that well planned, and now the new version allows 16 lanes, so it really becomes possible.
You would need to plan for at least 2 heats: one in the 5-10 GMT range and one in the 15-20 GMT range). I think that would cover the whole world, but maybe I am missing somewhere. End of Oct for 10k is great for me, since after that I think I need to try a serious HM.