Automatically updating online logbook

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Automatically updating online logbook

Post by selco » April 29th, 2010, 2:18 am

Does anyone know if there is a way to automatically update the online logbook?

I use rowpro if that helps, or is there a separate tool or utility that would sync up my rows with the logbook after each row or perhaps once per day?

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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by Carl Watts » April 29th, 2010, 6:14 am

Very good question.

It is very manual in RowPro but not really a problem if you do it after every row. The problem occurs when I had to upload 3 months worth before 1st May as I was only uploading them for the challanges and didn't realise you get lifetime meters etc. Got quite tedious so just been doing 10-15 results a day till I caught up.

If anyone has a good answer can they post it please.
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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by jliddil » April 29th, 2010, 11:42 am

Carl Watts wrote:Very good question.

It is very manual in RowPro but not really a problem if you do it after every row. The problem occurs when I had to upload 3 months worth before 1st May as I was only uploading them for the challanges and didn't realise you get lifetime meters etc. Got quite tedious so just been doing 10-15 results a day till I caught up.

If anyone has a good answer can they post it please.
I am missing something? Yes it's not automatic but you got to the Rowing Log select those results that don't say C2 in the column (forget the name), right click and export to C2.

You can sort the C2 column so you group all results you have not uploaded.
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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by Citroen » April 29th, 2010, 12:35 pm

jliddil wrote:
Carl Watts wrote:Very good question.

It is very manual in RowPro but not really a problem if you do it after every row. The problem occurs when I had to upload 3 months worth before 1st May as I was only uploading them for the challanges and didn't realise you get lifetime meters etc. Got quite tedious so just been doing 10-15 results a day till I caught up.

If anyone has a good answer can they post it please.
I am missing something? Yes it's not automatic but you go to the Rowing Log select those results that don't say C2 in the column (forget the name), right click and export to C2.

You can sort the C2 column so you group all results you have not uploaded.
You may be able to automate that GUI stuff with http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/index.shtml

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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by jliddil » April 29th, 2010, 1:08 pm

Citroen wrote:
jliddil wrote:
Carl Watts wrote:Very good question.

It is very manual in RowPro but not really a problem if you do it after every row. The problem occurs when I had to upload 3 months worth before 1st May as I was only uploading them for the challanges and didn't realise you get lifetime meters etc. Got quite tedious so just been doing 10-15 results a day till I caught up.

If anyone has a good answer can they post it please.
I am missing something? Yes it's not automatic but you go to the Rowing Log select those results that don't say C2 in the column (forget the name), right click and export to C2.

You can sort the C2 column so you group all results you have not uploaded.
You may be able to automate that GUI stuff with http://www.autoitscript.com/autoit3/index.shtml
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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by selco » April 29th, 2010, 8:16 pm

Thanks for the suggestions. So there is no way to automatically update the online logbook, it would be a great feature to have and I will suggest this as a feature request in the Digital Rowing feedback forum shortly.

The suggestions to use a scripting or macro tool, while it may reduce the number of mouse clicks, still does not automate the process of updating the logbook. What I'm thinking of is having the software update the logbook in the background if you have chosen to save your rows - you don't have to remember or think about it, it will just get done.

In the meantime I'll continue to update the logbook manually.

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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by David Hart » April 30th, 2010, 10:23 am

It's nothing to do with RowPro but, if you use a machine with a PM3 or PM4 and a LogCard, you can use a LogCard reader and the free Concept2 Utility to upload a load of rows at once to the Logbook.

More information: http://www.concept2.com/us/service/software/c2u/
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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by jliddil » April 30th, 2010, 10:37 am

selco wrote:Thanks for the suggestions. So there is no way to automatically update the online logbook, it would be a great feature to have and I will suggest this as a feature request in the Digital Rowing feedback forum shortly.

The suggestions to use a scripting or macro tool, while it may reduce the number of mouse clicks, still does not automate the process of updating the logbook. What I'm thinking of is having the software update the logbook in the background if you have chosen to save your rows - you don't have to remember or think about it, it will just get done.

In the meantime I'll continue to update the logbook manually.
Keep in mind that any automated method means you need to store and pass your username and password via the computer. So some folks may not be comfortable storing a password permanently. Never really looked to see if Rowpro stores the password encrypted or not.
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Re: Automatically updating online logbook

Post by Citroen » April 30th, 2010, 4:32 pm

jliddil wrote:Keep in mind that any automated method means you need to store and pass your username and password via the computer. So some folks may not be comfortable storing a password permanently. Never really looked to see if Rowpro stores the password encrypted or not.
Don't worry - when it hits the wire it's going in the clear if you use http://www.concept2.com/sranking03/log.asp or if RowPro accesses that website behind the scenes.

The C2 logbook web page sends everything as a HTTP form

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<form method="post" action="log_in.asp?p=" name="login">
with these key/value pairs in the POST data.

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rn_user=c2useid&rn_pword=password&look=LOGIN
It's not even using base64 encoded HTTP basic authentication. So it's absolutely as insecure as you can get. There's only a small amount of personal data held on the C2 systems so I'm not too worried. It's not worth setting a secure password, but it's a very good idea to use a different password from things like eBay, PayPal and online banking which have high identity theft value.

The C2 Utility uses an encrypted token and a two way exchange to do the authentication - looks a bit like OAuth done in XML (in a Wireshark trace). It's better but, with my security specialist hat on, 100% pointless since the logbook home page lacks any security.

I like OAuth, I think it's a simple enough, secure enough scheme for everyday use but doesn't require heavy lifting to create the HMAC-SHA-1 encrypted digests.

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