Wrong HR and Stroke rate in Rowpro?

[joseludi]

Hello everybody, and first of all: Merry Christmas!

I've purchased Rowpro and I've create a plan. Afterwards, I've realized that there're some mistakes about de HR and the Stroke Rate.

In a SLOW TONE session the Active phase is at 18-22 stroke rate and at 153-165 HR whereas the REST PHASE is at 23-26 stroke rate and at 143-163 HR

If I print the plan, below there is a diagram with the types of exercises and their HR Band and SR Band. Maybe I'm wrong but SLOW TONE has the same SR Band as TECHNIQUE. EASY has higher SR Band than SLOW TONE.

I can't explain better because I am spanish but I enclose two screenshots

Thanks in advance

[hjs]

Don,t know exactly what the question is, but you could be thinking that a low spm (strokes per minute) is easy, but there is an other point. The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder.

So ist strokerate plus pace. Not strokerate only.

[joseludi]

Don,t know exactly what the question is, but you could be thinking that a low spm (strokes per minute) is easy, but there is an other point. The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder.

So ist strokerate plus pace. Not strokerate only.

The main question is about the SLOW TONE SESSION. The plan indicates I have to make a higher stroke rate in the rest or recovery period

Rest or recovery period: 23-26
Active period (Slow tone):18-22

Do I really have to do more strokes in recovery than in active time? I don't think so, I think it's a software mistake

I don't understan when you say "The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder", I'm an absolute beginer but I'm reading all the manuals by Rowpro and I'll read a lot about rowing. My sport is running but I'm injured and because I have a Concept2 I'll replace it with rowing.

Thanks hjs

[hjs]

Don,t know exactly what the question is, but you could be thinking that a low spm (strokes per minute) is easy, but there is an other point. The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder.

So ist strokerate plus pace. Not strokerate only.

The main question is about the SLOW TONE SESSION. The plan indicates I have to make a higher stroke rate in the rest or recovery period

Rest or recovery period: 23-26
Active period (Slow tone):18-22

Do I really have to do more strokes in recovery than in active time? I don't think so, I think it's a software mistake

I don't understan when you say "The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder", I'm an absolute beginer but I'm reading all the manuals by Rowpro and I'll read a lot about rowing. My sport is running but I'm injured and because I have a Concept2 I'll replace it with rowing.

Thanks hjs

You dont have to, but the reason is that recovery should be easy. So little easy strokes (high spm) and slow pace. So no its not a fault. You should increese the rate to make the recovery strokes easy.

Think about cycling, what is the most easy, a low gear with an easy pace. This way you paddle at a high cadance with very little resistance. Same for erging.


Example say you erg 2.00 (200watt) rate 20 which is 10 watt per stroke.

Recovery would be rate 25 pace pace 2.30 which would be just above 100 watt. Power per stroke only 4.

The lower stroke rate would be a lot more work in this case.

[joseludi]

Don,t know exactly what the question is, but you could be thinking that a low spm (strokes per minute) is easy, but there is an other point. The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder.

So ist strokerate plus pace. Not strokerate only.

The main question is about the SLOW TONE SESSION. The plan indicates I have to make a higher stroke rate in the rest or recovery period

Rest or recovery period: 23-26
Active period (Slow tone):18-22

Do I really have to do more strokes in recovery than in active time? I don't think so, I think it's a software mistake

I don't understan when you say "The power per stroke. With the same stroke rate and more power per stroke a session becomes much harder", I'm an absolute beginer but I'm reading all the manuals by Rowpro and I'll read a lot about rowing. My sport is running but I'm injured and because I have a Concept2 I'll replace it with rowing.

Thanks hjs

You dont have to, but the reason is that recovery should be easy. So little easy strokes (high spm) and slow pace. So no its not a fault. You should increese the rate to make the recovery strokes easy.

Think about cycling, what is the most easy, a low gear with an easy pace. This way you paddle at a high cadance with very little resistance. Same for erging.


Example say you erg 2.00 (200watt) rate 20 which is 10 watt per stroke.

Recovery would be rate 25 pace pace 2.30 which would be just above 100 watt. Power per stroke only 4.

The lower stroke rate would be a lot more work in this case.

I understand you. Do you mean I have to use the flywheel? The problem is I have in the position 1, so there's no posibility to decrease the power. Perhaps I should increase it to 2 or 3 and then decrese in the recovery

The plan of Rowpro doesn't tell anything about it.

You've been very helpful. Thank you very much

[joseludi]

I've just realized that you mean the way you stroke. The easy and hard stroke depend on the way you do.

It's not possible to graduate the power of the flywheel unless you kick your feet off the footrests

[hjs]

I've just realized that you mean the way you stroke. The easy and hard stroke depend on the way you do.

It's not possible to graduate the power of the flywheel unless you kick your feet off the footrests

You are the one yes who creates the power, the more energy you put in the chain, the faster the stroke and the opposite. This is different compared to cycling. Only during the drive you can put in energy, the recovery fase does nothing.
In cycling you are always putting in energy, there is no recovery fase.

[joseludi]

I've just realized that you mean the way you stroke. The easy and hard stroke depend on the way you do.

It's not possible to graduate the power of the flywheel unless you kick your feet off the footrests

You are the one yes who creates the power, the more energy you put in the chain, the faster the stroke and the opposite. This is different compared to cycling. Only during the drive you can put in energy, the recovery fase does nothing.
In cycling you are always putting in energy, there is no recovery fase.

I thought I had learned everything about the rowing.

I have to review everything and relearn everything again. I've just made a "just row" session of half an hour duration. I've changed the power of the flywheel from 1 to 3.

If I have any doubt I'll ask in the forum.

Thank you very much hjs

[hjs]

You are welcome. Dont overcomplicate things, use common sence.

Enjoy