RowPro V4.0 has been relased

[Citroen]

Parallels fee is 80 dollars plus windows is 100 dollars crazy expensive then RowPro is 99 dollars. I hope that rowing software can better designed to fit the needs of Apple users. I can say that RowPro is not in my budget unfortunately.

For $180 you'll get a perfectly serviceable Windows laptop on eBay.com

[Bob S.]

Parallels fee is 80 dollars plus windows is 100 dollars crazy expensive then RowPro is 99 dollars. I hope that rowing software can better designed to fit the needs of Apple users. I can say that RowPro is not in my budget unfortunately.

Same for me. I am currently running an old Mac system (10.6.8), an old Parallels version (5.0), and XP. No way would I go through the bother and expense of upgrading all that crap just to get an upgraded RP. I have had enough trouble with it already and I doubt that the new version would be that much better to make the upgrade worth while.

Bob S.

[Carl Watts]

Parallels fee is 80 dollars plus windows is 100 dollars crazy expensive then RowPro is 99 dollars. I hope that rowing software can better designed to fit the needs of Apple users. I can say that RowPro is not in my budget unfortunately.

Apple has a tiny market share compared to PC and personaly i'm suprised that Digital Rowing are bothering to develop a version for it. If it was not for the recent proliferation of i-Pads they would not bother. Anyone who really wants to use the software would already be running it as its simply a couple of mouse clicks on Windows 8 so its not like you have to learn to navigate a new OS. If it only ran on a Mac I would have bought one years ago to run it. PC's that are capable of running it are being thrown in the bin over here or sold for $10 with a USB mouse and Keyboard and 19" widescreen flat monitor ! its the same 0.1% of users out there that keep complaining about it not running on their Mac and lets face it when it finally gets released for one, the same people still won't be using it anyway because they expect RowPro to be free software.

[shewhodares]

Ok no PC or diff computer needed....or parallels or bootcamp! I found Crossover software for $40:

http://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-mac/

And this will be of interest to Row Pro v3 users:

http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibilit ... p_id=10322

Hope this helps, I just can't afford buying a seperate PC. I can even link my mac to the TV yay:)

[Carl Watts]

How much is an old PC over your side of the world ? You only need an old Pentium 4 and a midrange graphics card.

RowPro V4.0 will only run on Windows 7 or Windows 8 and no doubt is best run on Windows 8 so I see no end of trouble in sight running it on a Mac with third party software so I would not even atempt it. Generally people have enough problems running it on a PC and they end up blaming RowPro itself when there is nothing wrong with it.

I guess PC's must be expensive for you but they are cheap over here snd I have six in the house, One just for the Rower, garage, office and one in the lounge just as a server for the TV and a old Pentium 166MHz laptop which is only good as a doorstop or updating the old PM3 monitors firmware to V101 and a spare that I found in the road being thrown out for free in case the RowPro one dies.

[truth1ness]

While apple does have relatively smaller marketshare they are the fastest growing in computers and mobile, being a luxury brand probably associated more with people with expendable cash for rowing equipment and software, their app stores bring developers more revenue than competitors etc. There's a reason so many developers release iOS apps before android (if they bother with android at all) even with android having the larger marketshare now. And thousands of developers who had their own webstores have moved their product to the Mac App store. The visibility alone is a huge benefit and I don't know of anything similar in the windows ecosystem. For whatever reason, Apple has created a hardware/software/store ecosystem that gets people buying software more than almost anywhere else and I'm willing to bet the "per capita" app consumption amongst mac users is far higher than PC.

I think the smartest thing for Rowpro would be to expand to apple products. The best thing that can happen for this software is to have an expanded userbase which can fund full time extensive and rapid development and new features.

I'm in the Parallels XP camp that doesn't really see any reason to pay 100$ for Windows 8 + 40$ for the RP4 upgrade for some moderately better graphics at this point. I'd rather see a modest first edition iPhone app with very minimal graphics that would expand the potential userbase to the thousands or millions of people with part time access to an erg (clubs/gyms/friend's/etc). Sooo much potential, imo, and such a bigger impact than incrementally better graphics for $40 or $140 dollars.

[Bob S.]

I think the smartest thing for Rowpro would be to expand to apple products. The best thing that can happen for this software is to have an expanded userbase which can fund full time extensive and rapid development and new features.

I'm in the Parallels XP camp that doesn't really see any reason to pay 100$ for Windows 8 + 40$ for the RP4 upgrade for some moderately better graphics at this point. I'd rather see a modest first edition iPhone app with very minimal graphics that would expand the potential userbase to the thousands or millions of people with part time access to an erg (clubs/gyms/friend's/etc). Sooo much potential, imo, and such a bigger impact than incrementally better graphics for $40 or $140 dollars.

I have been using Parallels/Windows XP combo for RP for several years now, but with Microsoft dropping XP, I have decided to erase both from my Mac and just give up using RowPro. It has never been consistently trouble free. I considered the possibility of picking up a cheap PC, but I've decided that there would be too many problems.

Bob S.

[Carl Watts]

Err Bob You just don't get any updates for XP, it doesn't mean it stops working.

Really its just a question of money. Just buy a decent PC and RowPro V4.1.

A 5 year old can run it you don't even have to know anything about Windowns 8, you just click on the RowPro icon that still looks the same and away you go.

I picked up an Apple i-PAD and started using one, its a pile of junk but if I needed it to run RowPro I would buy one.

The future monitor for the Concept 2 rower is going to be an i-PAD or an Android tablet anyway with a self powered Bluetooth tach sensor pickup for the monitor running a $5 bit of software from either the apple store or Google Play. RowPro eventually will simply become an App you buy at the same stores.

Concept 2 would have rocks in their heads if they went down any other design route and did not include this an an option.

[Bob S.]

Err Bob You just don't get any updates for XP, it doesn't mean it stops working.

It was not a question about whether it worked or not. It was my impression that it would be more open to hacking. Since I also use that computer for other things as well, I want to keep it protected.

Yes, the best alternative at this point is to get a decent PC and I might eventually do it. But it is indeed a question of money - and - also a lack of knowledge about what PC would be sufficient to do the job. Those that I have checked out so far have not been promising (insufficient graphics), so I have shelved the whole idea for a while.

Bob S.

[Citroen]

Err Bob You just don't get any updates for XP, it doesn't mean it stops working.

It was not a question about whether it worked or not. It was my impression that it would be more open to hacking. Since I also use that computer for other things as well, I want to keep it protected.

That's especially true if you're connected to the internet. WinXP when it goes out of support becomes a viable target for all of the worlds hackers, they just need to find an exploit after Microsoft drops their support and it will NEVER get fixed. It WILL get exploited.

[truth1ness]

Though if you are using this laptop for nothing but Rowpro it doesn't really matter all that much, there shouldn't be anything to steal.

Rowpro works absolutely fine for me on my almost 4 year old macbook and parallels. It's only crashed once and I found out after that it was a server side thing, not the software.

[Citroen]

Though if you are using this laptop for nothing but Rowpro it doesn't really matter all that much, there shouldn't be anything to steal.

It's not just data stealing. If they get a trojan on your unsupported WinXP system then it could easily become a spam spewing zombie.

[Carl Watts]

Personally I find the whole virus thing gets blown out of proportion. If you stay away from Dodgey websites and are careful what you open mail wise you can stay away from most of the problems. The virus protection software I run stopped updating months ago in August 2013

Windows XP has finally had its day anyway, lets be honest. Im still running it on this PC I'm typing on but thats because I'm lazy and don't want to put Windows 8 on it because there are no applications I need to run that need Windows 8.

I had no issues spending NZ$100 for Windows 8 when it first came out for RowPro as I perceive it as value for money and it gets used five times a week. People over here spend more than that on one pair of Jeans.

You should be able to pickup an old PC in the states for next to nothing. Laptops over here sell for a bit of a premium and thats because the kids are now taking them to school and the parents are looking for them second hand. Currently I have three spare PC's, all of which were being thrown in the bin. Even Dual Core stuff is now starting to go in the rubbish bin over here.