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For all things running related - a continuation of the previous popular thread

Not sure what the previous thread was about? But I was wondering if anyone has tried the new Asics Gel Kinseis?

Also I need an online source for a short-sleeve yellow running jersey with UV protection.

Please post your favorite running links.

Thanks!

I posted on similar topic before theold forum died, so apologies for posting again.

Anyway, I'm a runner who uses the C2 as a cross-trainer to prevent injury and boredom.

I'm now into my third week of Hal Highdon's Advanced Marathon schedule, in an attempt to run the Calgary Marathon on July 9th in order to qualify for Boston (sub 3:20 in my case).

I'm following the schedule well, and have been doing the tempo and interval sessions (plus one of the easy sessions) on the C2. I'm running the Marathon pace and Long runs.

I would be interested to hear from anyone else who has done/is doing this. Or who is using the C2 as a cross-trainer for running.

I find the two activities mutually beneficial.

Things get boring! Yes they do.

I run 10ks every other day. After a run I would jump onto the Erg and row 8k.

I'm thin as a stick with no muscle mass, and plenty of energy. My erg is my woman.

Calgary Rob wrote: Anyway, I'm a runner who uses the C2 as a cross-trainer to prevent injury and boredom.
I would be interested to hear from anyone else who has done/is doing this. Or who is using the C2 as a cross-trainer for running.

I find the two activities mutually beneficial.

I assume you saw my post on the old forum. I too am trying to break 3:30 in April(pacing my brother) and 3:20 in June. For both of us to qualify for Boston. Maybe we will see you next year.

Right now I use the erg as a warm up and warm down from running and for some extra less stressful CV work. On days I rest from running I do a long row. If I run less, I row more.
I don't follow any plan. Just miles and meters and listening to your body. I need to average over 10 miles or 16km a day combined rowing and running. I run faster if I feel good, slower if the body is tired. I work hard uphill (always maintain form) and relax downhill. No really long runs. I never do training runs longer than 13 miles or 20km, my body seems to break down. Though in the past I would do two a days 2x8 or 2x10, maybe in May I will try some of these.

No speedwork or intervals. I do not need this for a 3:20. Though to break 3:00 which I eventually hope to do, I would need this.

I hope i can help a little with calgary robs post, First I would like to say that my no. 1 sport is long distance running. I happened on to rowing almost by accident, I was recovering from an injury that was related to my contsruction job. I was in my local gym sitting on a stationary bike,thinking this just isnt doing it for me. I couldnt get my heart rate up enough to justify even to be there. I noticed some guy on this rowing thing just really going at it and sweat was flying and he was doing this for a good 30 mins. I got off the bike and went over and sat down on the rower next to him and he immediatly started giving me advice. That was two years ago, needless to say i got hooked on rowing,but my desire was to still run marathons at a good clip. during my recovery from my injury,I got up to around 75,000 meters a week on the rower.
when i was healhy enough to resume running, And i started adding miles to my long run, my quads killed me. i found out that it was because of to many meters on the rower. i guess i better get to the point..... I am 49 years old have done 35 marathons to date, i was injured for 16 weeks, and never run a step. all i did was row, started running again and in 8 weeks, ran a marathon in 319. i now row around 35000 meters a week, run around 50 miles a week, run a 20 miler on a saturday every other week at 730 to 745 per mile pace. I use the rower now exclusively for cross training. it really keeps me strong mentally and physically. I recently did a marathon on dec.2nd in tucson arizona. after another injury. the time was 327, all i wanted to do was just finish. my recovery after was nothing but rowing. two weeks after that race i entered another one in jacksonville florida. time was 323. again my recovery was more rowing and this time i added stair climbing. i entered one more marathon in february. it was a hilly course in ocala, florida. i was 8th over all with a time of 313. I truly believe that i could accomplish this all because of rowing. it really helps keep you in top shape. if i could never run a step again, i know with out a doubt i would be happy just rowing. also thanks for such a very infomative forum. Bill Marshall (runr/ rowr)

Hi andyArvid,

I apologise for missing your post on the old forum, it was very interesting and I will follow your progress.


Hi runr/rowr,

Great times on so little running mileage. I hope you can keep it up.

Hi, Calgary Rob and Andy Arvid
I have just been reading and rescueing the last posts on the "old runner's thread", and seen your interest in marathons.
Last year I did my first marathon with the idea of "rowing as much as possible" and "running as less as necessary".
Here is the link to the thread in the "old forum" explaining my trainig etc., which may interest you (take care of trojans!)
I have saved the whole stuff in a file, and may email it to anyone interested (PM me giving your email adress).
Now I'm trying to get the rowing/running thing a bit further:
I'm focusing very much on rowing this year, but I pretend to run a 10k race on april 9th with an extremely low running mileage in 2006 (24 km up to now in 2006). Let's see how it goes...

Two weeks to go. Ran 18.5 km (11.5 miles) in 90 minutes today along with 5km on the erg. Felt really good. A week ago Sunday, I ran 80 minutes then in the afternoon rowed a 6k on-line. I pr'ed in 23:17.4 and my first race as a lightweight. Unfortunately, I had trouble recovering. Monday, rowed only 10k. Tuesday returned to my normal 12k run plus 5k row but felt very tired. On Wednesday, I was soooo beat I was exhausted just warming up on the erg. So I took the day off. Good thing because the spring in my step returned on Thursday.

Now I am going into maintenance mode to rest my body and maintain my shape. Just do 11-12k plus 5k easy rows.

Hey guys...

I just came home from a run with 5 buddies... we ran for about 70' and my hr was about 177.

The run was great but every now and then i got an odd stitch in my chest. I would stretch while running and take deeper breathes which made it go away. But upon talking with my crewmates they recommended breathing in through the nose and out through the mouth.

I've never done such a thing while erging, rowing, or running.

Who else does this when they run? On my cooldown this morning i tried it out, but the cold air really burnt my nostrils.

Thanks.

There have been a lot of studies regarding mouth/nose breathing. The summary is: breathe anyway you want it, doesn't make any difference and you certainly get more air through an open mouth than through those two little nostrils.

about that shirt you were looking for...... I may know where to find one but you'll have to be more specific!!

LacticAcid wrote:Not sure what the previous thread was about? But I was wondering if anyone has tried the new Asics Gel Kinseis?

Yankeerunner is your man for shoes. PM him if he does not see this

Even though I re-started this thread on the new site I have not been very visible on it. The reason: Because I have been planning on doing a race on 30th April (3 Peaks) for about 9 months and I have not run for 4 weeks due to a foot injury. So I have been a bit down and not wanted to consider running.

However I ran 6 miles on Saturday with no problems, bar a bit of stiffness and I am now considering if I can get myself ready in 3 weeks. Luckily it is the Easter break next weekend and I know I am going to have to fit in a 17 miler (off-road) to have any chance of being fit enough. There is a chance that my foot will become sore again and stop me racing but better that than to start off with no decent miles in my legs.

The thing that gets me coming back is the pure enjoyment of running and I felt just that last Saturday. Rowing never gives me that feeling even though I do enjoy it.

Hi, Johnny!
Good luck with your recovery.
I have some news that may interest you:
This year I have been focusing nearly exclusively on rowing. Until yesterday I had only run 28 km (0 on january, 16,5 on february, 9,5 on march and 2 on april), mainly as warmups for weight workouts. In this time I have gained 5 kg (up to 88 kg)
Yesterday we raced the "cursa dels bombers", which is one of the traditional running races for our crew.
10500 participants, very nice organization and great amiente.

We started with our traditional strategy: 1st 5 km (more or less) together, then "campi qui pugui", that is: as fast as you can.
We passed the 5 km mark at 23:17, running very easily. I felt really good, so I went a bit faster in the second half. Finally I made 42:38 "official" time, 40:39 "real" time, this is since really crossing the start line until the arrival.
I had a problem with my timing chip, so I don't appear at the official result list , as I would have done it into the top 1000. At least, I was the first CEU-member (Though unofficially )
Nevertheless, a nice day and great fun.
I think this shows that rowing does quite a good x-training to running.