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I'm working through the BPP, and getting a kick out of logging the workouts.
Today it was 6x500m, plus I added an initial interval of 2000m as a warmup.
When I logged it, obviously it came up as 5000m, with the option of ranking it - which would be unfair.

Is there a way to enter a workout to show that it was an interval piece, or do the rankings just depend on people having a conscience? (I had to go back and check that each of my ranked workouts had been done as single pieces )

As a related question, are there rules about taking breaks in longer pieces (marathon and longer), or must these be done without breaks?

I’ve never had the logbook provide an option for ranking an interval piece that I’m aware of to date. I think there are those who have found ways to manipulate rankings. If I were a heavyweight but listed myself as a lightweight, that would be one way. Did you actually program rest periods as one normally would with an interval session or just 7 intervals with no programed rest? The logbook has guidelines and guardrails, but people will always find a way.

You could take breaks on longer pieces, but the clock would keep running. Common on marathons and such I imagine.

If you use Just Row, what happens is as you describe.

You can also program any specific piece using the PM. If the piece is a standard distance it will upload to your C2 log and to the Rankings if you wish. If non-standard or intervals it goes to log only.

To use the PM: Press any button to switch on, then:
Select Workout. You get a choice:
Standard
Custom
Rerow
New

Pressing any of these gives you a specific selection. The possibilities are many.

Or go to https://www.concept2.com/support/monito ... how-to-use

If you use Ergdata, there are daily pieces called Work Out of the Day (WOD):
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/training/wod

These can be far too complex to input by hand, so Ergdata on a phone or tablet can connect to PM, download them and then upload our results to daily leaderboards.

In any standard or programmed piece, you can do as you like, using Just Row. If you stop, the time keeps going. The rankings cover certain times and distances only; these you can see on the C2 log page. Intervals are intervals only and never ranked, save in the WOD boards.

As Joe mentions, you shouldn't be able to rank an interval session, if it was inputted as intervals.

It seems you are logging your stuff manually and put in your overall distance. In this case you would get the rank option, but it wouldn't be a verified result.
I don't know what happens, if you enter the verification code, if the logbook can detect, how the distance was split based on this code. So probably the rank option would disappear with entered verification code.

When I logged it, obviously it came up as 5000m, with the option of ranking it - which would be unfair.

You get a No in the Verified column if there's no verification code from PM.

Thanks all - I enter the workout on the PM manually, and then enter the result manually on the log.
If it could be entered automatically from an app, I don't think I'd take that option - typing it in and seeing the numbers climb is part of the ritual (sad life that I have ).
I guess that it being "" not verified " is as good a safeguard as there could ever be

Annisotropic wrote: ↑

July 11th, 2024, 2:43 pm

Thanks all - I enter the workout on the PM manually, and then enter the result manually on the log.
If it could be entered automatically from an app, I don't think I'd take that option - typing it in and seeing the numbers climb is part of the ritual (sad life that I have ).
I guess that it being "" not verified " is as good a safeguard as there could ever be

The good thing by logging with an app, you can see all intervals and rest times you did. And you have stroke data, if you are interested in more details.
If it's not of interest at all, don't mind and go on with your strategy

Is there a way to enter a workout to show that it was an interval piece?

No. But it remains in the PM memory as Intervals if you programmed it as such.

If it's an Event, PM also gives a verification code for the Rankings.

To log as Intervals in your C2 logbook, you need Ergdata.

I also use spreadsheet with only meters, time and strokes. Any derivatives I want can be calculated automatically by day, week and year. If it was intervals I just add a note eg 4*2'.

Some WOD intervals are too complex to load by hand. Ergdata is far quicker and updates the logbook immediately in all the gruesome detail..

Sakly wrote: ↑

July 11th, 2024, 3:47 pm

The good thing by logging with an app, you can see all intervals and rest times you did. And you have stroke data, if you are interested in more details.
If it's not of interest at all, don't mind and go on with your strategy

I hadn't thought about all the extra detail that would be recorded, so maybe I will try the app after all. There's no such thing as too much data

Annisotropic wrote: ↑

July 12th, 2024, 3:55 am

I hadn't thought about all the extra detail that would be recorded, so maybe I will try the app after all. There's no such thing as too much data

If you love data, you definitely need to use an app. There's more than you'll probably ever need, there certainly is for me.

Annisotropic wrote: ↑

July 12th, 2024, 3:55 am

Sakly wrote: ↑

July 11th, 2024, 3:47 pm

The good thing by logging with an app, you can see all intervals and rest times you did. And you have stroke data, if you are interested in more details.
If it's not of interest at all, don't mind and go on with your strategy

I hadn't thought about all the extra detail that would be recorded, so maybe I will try the app after all. There's no such thing as too much data

Most used apps are ergdata (c2's own app) and ergzone (3rd party). I recently installed ergzone, both apps are providing many data, ergdata provides more compared to free ergzone version.
Ergzone instead has some challenges going, which are a lot of fun, so both apps have their specific "advantage"

Dangerscouse wrote: ↑

July 12th, 2024, 6:47 am

If you love data, you definitely need to use an app. There's more than you'll probably ever need, there certainly is for me.

THANKYOOOOO!

I just used ergdata for the first time, I'm in heaven

Annisotropic wrote: ↑

July 12th, 2024, 5:01 pm

I just used ergdata for the first time, I'm in heaven

Haha, as was said, for a data geek these apps are really great, also during the workout! And syncing logbook entries is easy

Annisotropic wrote: ↑

July 12th, 2024, 5:01 pm

THANKYOOOOO!

I just used ergdata for the first time, I'm in heaven

Hahaha, they are very useful and informative