How to downgrade PM5 firmware
How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Since upgrading the PM5 system a few weeks ago, to version 175, my PM5 has required new batteries before each row.
It looks like the PM5 doesn’t go dormant in between workouts. The backlight does go off but the display stays on. I’ve been greeted with a low battery warning each time I arrive before even touching the screen. When I check battery status under utilities I get 0% for the battery level. When I change batteries I see the new batteries at 100%. Then a few days later it’s down to 0!
Something is broken in the new firmware. How do I downgrade?
It looks like the PM5 doesn’t go dormant in between workouts. The backlight does go off but the display stays on. I’ve been greeted with a low battery warning each time I arrive before even touching the screen. When I check battery status under utilities I get 0% for the battery level. When I change batteries I see the new batteries at 100%. Then a few days later it’s down to 0!
Something is broken in the new firmware. How do I downgrade?
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Have you tried pressing the [MENU] button four times to switch the PM5 off?
Have you tried disconnecting your printer cable from the bottom of the PM5?
To downgrade firmware you'd need to write to info@concept2.com.
Have you tried disconnecting your printer cable from the bottom of the PM5?
To downgrade firmware you'd need to write to info@concept2.com.
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Factory default reset it.
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
I just did and it did turn off. However, I never had to do this before and my battery usually lasts over six-months.Have you tried pressing the [MENU] button four times to switch the PM5 off?
There's no printer cable that I know of.Have you tried disconnecting your printer cable from the bottom of the PM5?
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Chances are good if you will turn the PM5 off with the four presses after each row, you will get much more than 6 months with each set of batteries.Mahboud wrote: ↑December 21st, 2023, 5:32 amI just did and it did turn off. However, I never had to do this before and my battery usually lasts over six-months.Have you tried pressing the [MENU] button four times to switch the PM5 off?
There's no printer cable that I know of.Have you tried disconnecting your printer cable from the bottom of the PM5?
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Right, but after a few mins PM5 should turn off anyway (if no BT connection holds awake). Even if the long timeout for 12h is configured, it should be off the next day, but sounds like it is not.Joebasscat wrote: ↑December 21st, 2023, 8:40 amChances are good if you will turn the PM5 off with the four presses after each row, you will get much more than 6 months with each set of batteries.Mahboud wrote: ↑December 21st, 2023, 5:32 amI just did and it did turn off. However, I never had to do this before and my battery usually lasts over six-months.Have you tried pressing the [MENU] button four times to switch the PM5 off?
There's no printer cable that I know of.Have you tried disconnecting your printer cable from the bottom of the PM5?
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
When you say "over six months", do you mean just over? I changed my PM5 batteries at least a year ago, maybe even closer to 18 months, and I noticed the other day that it's still at 84%.
I've rowed circa 3.5 million metres in 12 months, so it's not like I don't use it enough, so six months sounds a bit odd to me. FWIW, I almost always leave the monitor to turn off automatically.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
I do about the same distance a year, row nearly every day. It takes me some time to get settled in (I connect EXR via Bluetooth before I can set up the route and training, my HR belt and watch via ANT+), and even then the batteries last me over a year, 18 months to 24 would be closer. But after rowing I will always turn off the PM5 as the BLE connection tends to keep it turned on.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑December 21st, 2023, 4:07 pmI've rowed circa 3.5 million metres in 12 months, so it's not like I don't use it enough, so six months sounds a bit odd to me. FWIW, I almost always leave the monitor to turn off automatically.
Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
My erg will be two years old in January, ~4.3mm meters during this time. Display shows full battery symbol, never had the idea to check the details yet.
Switch on PM5, open ergdata on android device, select session from favourites, wait for HR to be displayed and start. Takes approx 2mins. After the session I use long press or 4x press of menu button to switch off.
Switch on PM5, open ergdata on android device, select session from favourites, wait for HR to be displayed and start. Takes approx 2mins. After the session I use long press or 4x press of menu button to switch off.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:15.9
500m: 1:26.0
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log
Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Isn't the PM5 powered by the spinning flywheel?Dangerscouse wrote: ↑December 21st, 2023, 4:07 pmI've rowed circa 3.5 million metres in 12 months, so it's not like I don't use it enough, so six months sounds a bit odd to me. FWIW, I almost always leave the monitor to turn off automatically.
If that is so, then one would think that battery lifetime isn't (much) related to distance rowed.
Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Correct, in essence it's battery use is driven by the time the PM5 is active, but isn't powered by the flywheel (unless the PM5 is retrofitted to a Model C or earlier).
For me, I row 5 times a week, including two group rows on EXR (where I typically wait 15 mins in advance). Normal sessions I usually need 5 to 10 minutes to set up.
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
True, but what I was trying to demonstrate was that I use it regularly, and I don't turn off the monitor after I've finished and there's no draining of the battery, so there must be another issue to consider.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Could it be that the phone the OP uses to connect to the PM5 stays in range after rowing and maintains connection? Hence, keeping the PM5 on.
I would suggest ensuring the PM5 is turned off post row and making sure the phone is disconnected. See if this changes battery life.
I would suggest ensuring the PM5 is turned off post row and making sure the phone is disconnected. See if this changes battery life.
Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
Ah, I seeDangerscouse wrote: ↑December 22nd, 2023, 2:15 pmTrue, but what I was trying to demonstrate was that I use it regularly, and I don't turn off the monitor after I've finished and there's no draining of the battery, so there must be another issue to consider.
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Re: How to downgrade PM5 firmware
If you are using ErgData it can keep the phone on if it stays in range.
Best to just factory default reset the PM5, make sure the PM5 is not connected to the phone by turning off the Bluetooth and check it shuts down in less than a minute unplugged from the rower.
Best to just factory default reset the PM5, make sure the PM5 is not connected to the phone by turning off the Bluetooth and check it shuts down in less than a minute unplugged from the rower.
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