Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

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Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Willy.VdW » September 18th, 2022, 12:57 pm

Hello,
I am new here, my rowing machine hasn't even arrived!
Since space is limited, I will have to take the C2 apart between workouts, or find some other solution.
I wonder if anyone hoists his rowing machine to the ceiling, the way bicycles or kayaks are stored.
Weight is probably not a problem, but it would be useful to know where exactly to "grab" the machine.
I thank you for your comments and suggestions!
Bert

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by JaapvanE » September 18th, 2022, 4:15 pm

There are wallmounts (for example https://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-row-hanger-black), but I don't know if hoisting is a an option, as there aren't easy attachment points and the front is unbalanced (all weight is on one side of the rail).

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by jamesg » September 18th, 2022, 4:30 pm

Simplest is stand it on end if you have the height. No one should go too near, least of all children, unless it's secured somehow.
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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Tsnor » September 18th, 2022, 5:19 pm

Just stand the erg on its fan section. It's about 8 feet tall, fits under most ceilings.

Here's a photo of a row of ergs standing up. https://darkhorserowing.com/wp-content/ ... torage.jpg

(If you have small kids then tether the top of the erg, but it's pretty stable even without a tether. All the ergs at the club are stored this way.)

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Willy.VdW » September 19th, 2022, 3:23 am

Thanks for the comments and advice!
I think the ceiling is high enough to set the machine upright, but it would then
still take up a certain amount of floor area. Much less of course.
I will give it a try, once the machine has arrived....
The Rogue Hanger is certainly an interesting device, at least if the weight of the
machine can be carried by the rear foot. Perhaps I will ask the manufacturer.

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by gvcormac » September 19th, 2022, 9:31 am

The rower stands just short of 8' when on end. If that's too tall, you can break it in half pretty easily. The footprint standing up is about 2' x 2.5'.

If you break it in half you could hang the flywheel part easily enough by its feet. But it would still overhang about the same area as standing, so not sure it would be a win unless you had very high ceilings or an area with ceiling but unused floor area.

I stored one on end in my partner's 400 sq ft studio apt, and it wasn't too inconvenient.

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Willy.VdW » September 19th, 2022, 1:17 pm

The garage is filled quite well, but a solution has to be found :wink:
I hope it will arrive soon so I can start rowing and solve the storage puzzle (in that order :))

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Tsnor » September 19th, 2022, 11:11 pm

Willy.VdW wrote:
September 19th, 2022, 1:17 pm
The garage is filled quite well, but a solution has to be found :wink:
I hope it will arrive soon so I can start rowing and solve the storage puzzle (in that order :))
Now is a GREAT time to watch "rowing technique" and "rowing common errors" type videos. (If you are already an expert, ignore this. If you learned at cross-fit, etc, then please watch videos. Rowing is very safe if done with reasonable form.)

Concept2 Australia has some excellent videos https://www.youtube.com/user/Concept2Australia

Dark Horse is another excellent source https://www.youtube.com/c/DarkHorseRowing .. you'll need to do some searching here to get good videos, they have a ton of specialized stuff.

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Willy.VdW » September 20th, 2022, 6:28 am

I am no expert, not even a beginner, rather a pré-starter :lol:
I do have a (former) collegue who was a "real" rower, together with his twin brother.
He already warned me that rowing isn't an intuitive motion, that you have to learn how to do it.
So, while waiting for my C2 to arrive, I have already watched a lot of instructive videos.
I find Dark Horse Rowing has very good videos, not only for a beginner like me.
I will take a look at the Concept 2 Australian videos, thanks for the hints.
While waiting, I have done some technique exercises that I can do without rower, such as the
start position at the catch and the "lean back, pull arms and reverse" at the end of the drive.
From my experience as an amateur bassoon player, I know that learning to perform new body
movements "automatically" can only be achieved by repetitive exercise, so I hope thes exercises
will help me do the stroke the right way. :P
I now wonder if it is possible to hang the C2 rower on the wall by the front foot. Doing so would
use less floor area. But it means lifting the heaviest part high(er) up....

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by gvcormac » September 20th, 2022, 12:03 pm

I'm not sure I agree that rowing isn't intuitive. I learned to row by glancing at the Concept 2 pictogram. It seemed obvious to me, but I understand it is less obvious to some.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DYZsrWGfrZXQcVrWA

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Dangerscouse » September 20th, 2022, 12:22 pm

gvcormac wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 12:03 pm
I'm not sure I agree that rowing isn't intuitive. I learned to row by glancing at the Concept 2 pictogram. It seemed obvious to me, but I understand it is less obvious to some.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DYZsrWGfrZXQcVrWA
There's a subtle, but important difference between a rowing motion being intuitive: very simply put it's a push and pull motion, but there's far more to it.

Engage the shoulders and core, don't shoot the slide, don't over reach/ overcompress, don't let shins go past vertical, don't use a death grip on the handle, don't overuse the back & engage the hip hinge, and these are just the main issues I can think of at first thought and it doesn't take account of drag, stroke rate etc

The vast majority of people will have quite a few things that they are doing wrong, and a lot of them won't be obvious, much like a deadlift. It's a simple movement, but can be easily done badly
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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Tsnor » September 20th, 2022, 12:43 pm

gvcormac wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 12:03 pm
I'm not sure I agree that rowing isn't intuitive.
EVERYONE at planet fitness who uses the rowers has very poor intuition.

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Tsnor » September 20th, 2022, 12:55 pm

Willy.VdW wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 6:28 am
I am no expert, not even a beginner, rather a pré-starter :lol:
I do have a (former) collegue who was a "real" rower, together with his twin brother.
He already warned me that rowing isn't an intuitive motion, that you have to learn how to do it.
So, while waiting for my C2 to arrive, I have already watched a lot of instructive videos.
I find Dark Horse Rowing has very good videos, not only for a beginner like me.
I will take a look at the Concept 2 Australian videos, thanks for the hints.
While waiting, I have done some technique exercises that I can do without rower, such as the
start position at the catch and the "lean back, pull arms and reverse" at the end of the drive.
From my experience as an amateur bassoon player, I know that learning to perform new body
movements "automatically" can only be achieved by repetitive exercise, so I hope these exercises
will help me do the stroke the right way. :P
Excellent, you'll be avoiding soo many bad habit.
Willy.VdW wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 6:28 am
I now wonder if it is possible to hang the C2 rower on the wall by the front foot. Doing so would
use less floor area. But it means lifting the heaviest part high(er) up....
Let us know what you end up doing. PICTURES ! Think you'll find the heaviest part should be lower if hoisted, and that standing it up is much faster and easier, but try it. The rower is not that heavy (50-60 lbs), but it is industrial strength. If it's heavy end up and falls whatever it hits is going to take serious damage.

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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Sakly » September 20th, 2022, 1:06 pm

Tsnor wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 12:43 pm
gvcormac wrote:
September 20th, 2022, 12:03 pm
I'm not sure I agree that rowing isn't intuitive.
EVERYONE at planet fitness who uses the rowers has very poor intuition.
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Re: Hoisting the rower to the ceiling

Post by Willy.VdW » September 24th, 2022, 10:19 am

Due to lack of machine, I am still in the virtual phase of rowing and storing the machine :wink:
I now have some doubt wether it is a good idea to hang the rower by its front foot.
When doing so, the macchine hangs on the legs.
The flywheel normally stands on the legs, it doesn't hang on them. Perhaps the screws that attach
the legs to the flywheel housing are not strong enough to carry the full weight of the flywheel
and the front beam, or the weight of the entire machine if the slide is not removed.
When horizontal or vertical on the flywheel, this is no problem.
So, back to the drawing board? :P

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