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2k time

Post by Funktion » November 15th, 2021, 10:22 pm

I am 15 years old, 5 foot 8, and 140 pounds. My current 2k time is 185 watts which is 8:15,and my goal is to get my 2k under 8 minutes. If I row at a 24 the whole time how many watts do I need to get sub 8 minutes

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Re: 2k time

Post by Tony Cook » November 16th, 2021, 3:35 am

Funktion wrote:
November 15th, 2021, 10:22 pm
I am 15 years old, 5 foot 8, and 140 pounds. My current 2k time is 185 watts which is 8:15,and my goal is to get my 2k under 8 minutes. If I row at a 24 the whole time how many watts do I need to get sub 8 minutes
Hi Funktion,
8 min 2k = 2:00/500m pace = 202.5 Watts.
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/ ... calculator
When you say ‘row at a 24 the whole time’ I take that as your stroke rate. 24 is a low stroke rate for a 2k - most people do it at 30+. Is there any reason why you need to do it at 24SPM?
Born 1963 6' 5" 100Kg
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0

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Re: 2k time

Post by jackarabit » November 16th, 2021, 6:56 pm

Tony Cook wrote:
November 16th, 2021, 3:35 am
Funktion wrote:
November 15th, 2021, 10:22 pm
I am 15 years old, 5 foot 8, and 140 pounds. My current 2k time is 185 watts which is 8:15,and my goal is to get my 2k under 8 minutes. If I row at a 24 the whole time how many watts do I need to get sub 8 minutes
Hi Funktion,
8 min 2k = 2:00/500m pace = 202.5 Watts.
https://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/ ... calculator
When you say ‘row at a 24 the whole time’ I take that as your stroke rate. 24 is a low stroke rate for a 2k - most people do it at 30+. Is there any reason why you need to do it at 24SPM?
As implied above, raising rate to 28-30+ strokes/‘ will reduce average watts/stroke (workload per stroke).

185/24=7.7 watt stroke.
202.5/24=8.4 watt stroke.
202.5/30=6.8 watt stroke

Assuming you stay with rate 24, you need .7 watts/stroke increase for 8’ flat. Get the frequency of effort to 30 per minute and decrease average watts/stroke required by 1.6. Skin the cat as you will.
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Re: 2k time

Post by jamesg » November 22nd, 2021, 1:52 am

If I row at a 24 the whole time how many watts do I need to get sub 8 minutes
Eight minute 2k is near 200W, at all ratings: Power and Speed have a fixed relationship, W = kV³, called the cube law.

Training is done at low ratings (18-24), since this helps develop technique and strength. Suggest you avoid high ratings, which can only lead to a short rushed stroke, of no use afloat.
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Re: 2k time

Post by Tony Cook » November 22nd, 2021, 4:19 am

jamesg wrote:
November 22nd, 2021, 1:52 am
If I row at a 24 the whole time how many watts do I need to get sub 8 minutes
Eight minute 2k is near 200W, at all ratings: Power and Speed have a fixed relationship, W = kV³, called the cube law.

Training is done at low ratings (18-24), since this helps develop technique and strength. Suggest you avoid high ratings, which can only lead to a short rushed stroke, of no use afloat.
Training at lower rates is fine but I’ve never seen anyone race/TT a 2k at <28 SPM and usually 32+.
Born 1963 6' 5" 100Kg
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0

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Re: 2k time

Post by jamesg » November 22nd, 2021, 6:10 am

I think he was talking about training, not racing, since he specified the rating, 24.
08-1940, 179cm, 75kg post-op (3 bp January 2025).

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