Taff Attack

TOB67 · Post by **TOB67** » March 27th, 2006, 7:02 am

Dwayne,
You have betrayed the trust of your teammates by not racing and proving your credentials.

How can any person claim the world record time in over six recognised distances as you have done and expect to retain any credibility if he refuses to race. Particularly when the people whose times he claims to have beaten carry so much respect in the rowing community.

It is time to join the real world. Your times are a figment of your imagination and are only real in "Dwaynes World".

So many people wanted to believe in you but knew in their hearts that it was all an illusion.

If you were even half the man your team mates thought you were you would end this charade now.

As the TV show says, Dwayne you are the biggest loser!

seat5 · Post by **seat5** » March 27th, 2006, 8:12 am

What has been going on here?

How shocking that you are incapable of recognizing some of the good virtues that have been exercised here: remorse, forgiveness, loyalty, and trust.

Feel free to go waste your breath on some other part of the forum and leave us to our folly. We don't need you here, and I'm sure there are other teams awaiting your benificience.

Chad Williams · Post by **Chad Williams** » March 27th, 2006, 8:37 am

seat5 wrote:
What has been going on here?
How shocking that you are incapable of recognizing some of the good virtues that have been exercised here: remorse, forgiveness, loyalty, and trust.

Feel free to go waste your breath on some other part of the forum and leave us to our folly. We don't need you here, and I'm sure there are other teams awaiting your benificience.

You are being very naive of this whole situation, you really can’t see what is right under your nose can you?. At least some of Taff Attack have showed that they have a back bone.

hjs · Post by **hjs** » March 27th, 2006, 8:40 am

Chad Williams wrote:
seat5 wrote:
What has been going on here?
How shocking that you are incapable of recognizing some of the good virtues that have been exercised here: remorse, forgiveness, loyalty, and trust.

Feel free to go waste your breath on some other part of the forum and leave us to our folly. We don't need you here, and I'm sure there are other teams awaiting your benificience.
You are being very naive of this whole situation, you really can’t see what is right under your nose can you?. At least some of Taff Attack have showed that they have a back bone.

The messenger always get shot.
The net is closing, slowly! but nevertheless closing.

niall · Post by **niall** » March 27th, 2006, 8:44 am

Let's get one thing straight here, Taff Attack is not disbanding!.

I was totally shocked to receive a text message from a friend informing me that Chris and Chippy had withdrawn from Taff Attack. I was driving back from London (after the 24-hour relay and 50K relay this weekend) and he kindly read from the Taff Attack thread for me. I listened in disbelief and was shocked at the possibility that the team could disband as a result of such a mass exodus.

While I totally respect Chris and Chippy's decision and fully support their views, for me the top priority is the team. During my drive home I concluded the following:

- I'm passionate about Indoor Rowing as a competitive sport. If Taff Attack disappeared, it would be one less team in competition (whether it be CTC, BIRC or regiuonal races etc). With our fantastic kit, we are a clearly identifiable team in competition and I'm proud of that. People on the circuit know and love us. So for the good of the sport, Taff Attack must continue!

- I'm passionate about the people that make up the team. We each have our individual goals and challenges and we get great motivation and support from each other. The utter thought that Carla would not get to compete at Boston as a Taff really hurt me earlier (I'm not having it!

). And it's not just Carla of course. Krysta's represented Taff Attack (with the AIO) and hasn't actually formally joined the team. Imagine how Martin (AussieTaff) would react on reading about the demise of TA (I know he's offline a lot due to his mum's ill health). These are just a few (I could go on!). It's the people that really make this team and I always feel such pride wearing the AIO. I'm representing the team and that means each individual that makes it up.

I have to comment on Chris and Chippy (and family). I completely understand their decision and I have the utmost respect for these guys. Welsh people are a proud nation and Chris and Chippy are fine examples! I too am a very proud Welshman and while I completely understand their reasons for leaving, my feelings for staying are stronger than leaving.

Some might not know that I was at SLIRC along with Chris and Chippy when a relay team was put together to get a verified 5:4x 2K time. The objective of it was to raise the issue of the verification system with C2. Unfortunately, the information got into the hands of Chad Williams and it was used to attack Dwayne. I fully supported the exercise to question the verificaton system as I feel this is how things are improved (if we all accepted how things were, we'd still be running around in bearskins!

) but I feel the information was badly handled the week following the 2K relay.

So lets put all this talk of leaving and disbanding behind us and get on with what we do best; supporting and motivating each other!

I'll post soon the details of my 24-hour relay and 50K relay events this weekend so stay tuned guys!

dadams · Post by **dadams** » March 27th, 2006, 9:23 am

Chad Williams wrote:What has been going on here?

Very good call by the ex Taff Attack leaders, but you should not have gone back on what you said, don’t say sorry for telling the truth. Dwayne as turned the tables on you now and made you feel guilty, this is so wrong.

By the looks of it Dwayne has now set him self up as the new Taff Attack leader. Why don’t people wake up, can you not see what he his going on here? He would rather let the team fold around him than row a 2000m to prove what he claims.

Don’t try and blame any of this on me either, Dwayne has caused controversy all the time he has posted on the forum. Go back in the achieves and look for yourselves, it is all there. If he had pulled a score in a public event anywhere close to what he claims behind closed doors none of this would have happened. If it was not me brining it to light it would have been someone else.

I have had it with you lot, you just wont listen, you don’t know the history, you will now have to live with what you have created, I am wasting my breath, the truth will come out one day and when it does just remember who told you so.

I knew you'd come out of your hole on this one. I have put up with this for long enough from you Chad. F*ck off!!! Plain and simple. Where the f*ck is this proof that you say you have?? You don't do you? Post it a**hole. Or shut the f*ck up. I'm sick of all your sh*t! You've disrupted this community enough.

Daren · Post by **Daren** » March 27th, 2006, 11:47 am

On the other hand, I'm back. =)

I was thinking, I could set the team up a private forum on the Taff Attack web site. This has the advantage that it would only be open to team members, and no one else would be able to trespass. The main downside, probably, is that it'll make it less likely that we'll attract "passing traffic" (i.e. new recruits), as we otherwise may do by posting here.

SteveV · Post by **SteveV** » March 27th, 2006, 2:02 pm

Daren wrote:On the other hand, I'm back. =)

I was thinking, I could set the team up a private forum on the Taff Attack web site. This has the advantage that it would only be open to team members, and no one else would be able to trespass. The main downside, probably, is that it'll make it less likely that we'll attract "passing traffic" (i.e. new recruits), as we otherwise may do by posting here.

Surely all we need is the ability to ban certain people form threads in this forum. Can that be done

Daren · Post by **Daren** » March 27th, 2006, 2:03 pm

SteveV wrote:
Daren wrote:On the other hand, I'm back. =)

I was thinking, I could set the team up a private forum on the Taff Attack web site. This has the advantage that it would only be open to team members, and no one else would be able to trespass. The main downside, probably, is that it'll make it less likely that we'll attract "passing traffic" (i.e. new recruits), as we otherwise may do by posting here.
Surely all we need is the ability to ban certain people form threads in this forum. Can that be done

I don't think it can be done with an "out of the box" phpBB, even using user groups.

Alissa · Post by **Alissa** » March 27th, 2006, 2:18 pm

Daren wrote:
SteveV wrote:
Daren wrote:On the other hand, I'm back. =)
Surely all we need is the ability to ban certain people form threads in this forum. Can that be done
I don't think it can be done with an "out of the box" phpBB, even using user groups.

You may not be able to "ban" someone from a thread, but if the US Forum implements the enhancements recently added to the UK forum which allow one to choose to "ignore" users, TA members (by "ignoring" anyone who should be banned from the thread) can get close to the effect of banning.

They won't see anything from those persons. If you decide to proceed on that basis, you might want to add something to TA signatures, like "To read the Taff Attack thread to best effect, follow instructions [____]" linking readers to a page on your website where you can explain who is being ignored on the team thread (which is why any posts by those persons aren't being viewed or responded to by team members, and giving instructions for how to view the TA thread as members do).

It wouldn't quite be "banning", but it would come pretty close...

Alissa

Daren · Post by **Daren** » March 27th, 2006, 2:47 pm

Ah, Alissa, but then I think we would be guilty of having our collective heads in the sand; at least as far as accusations of impropriety go. =)

Alissa · Post by **Alissa** » March 27th, 2006, 3:55 pm

Daren wrote:Ah, Alissa, but then I think we would be guilty of having our collective heads in the sand; at least as far as accusations of impropriety go. =)

Yes you'd be ignoring what they're saying, but essentially you're saying "don't come into our "house"...and just sweeping them back out without paying attention to them if they do.

"Shunning" can be pretty effective. If there are no responses here, they will tend to go elsewhere. If someone else quotes someone who is shunned, you would need to decide on a response, but it might well be to copy it and put it elsewhere to deal with, and ask the poster to please delete it here (or consider adding them to your "ignore" list if they won't), since this thread is for mutual support and encouragement--or whatever else you decide the thread is for...

But those decisions are all up to Taff Attack--just thought I'd provide another alternative.

Alissa

Krysta Coleman · Post by **Krysta Coleman** » March 27th, 2006, 4:20 pm

So you are back to stay, Daren? I really hope so.

I didn't know what to do, when I first started reading all of these recent developments. I was so looking forward to joining Taff Attack at the start of the new season, and racing as a Taff next year in Boston and at as many Canadian venues as I can. Carla described things best.. we're like the children of a bad divorce.

But after reading Niall's post, now I know I will still join Taff Attack on May 1st. And I really hope Citroen and as many of the other strong teams contributors will stay. As far as I am concerned, I would like to see Chippy and Chris back too with everything forgotten, but I guess they feel that is impossible now.

And Carla, we'll both race in the colours at Crash-B next year, ok?

- Krysta

Taffy Adams · Post by **Taffy Adams** » March 27th, 2006, 4:23 pm

Krysta Coleman wrote:So you are back to stay, Daren? I really hope so.

I didn't know what to do, when I first started reading all of these recent developments. I was so looking forward to joining Taff Attack at the start of the new season, and racing as a Taff next year in Boston and at as many Canadian venues as I can. Carla described things best.. we're like the children of a bad divorce.

But after reading Niall's post, now I know I will still join Taff Attack on May 1st. And I really hope Citroen and as many of the other strong teams contributors will stay. As far as I am concerned, I would like to see Chippy and Robert back too with everything forgotten, but I guess they feel that is impossible now.

And Carla, we'll both race in the colours at Crash-B next year, ok?

- Krysta

Nice Post, make it happen

hjs · Post by **hjs** » March 27th, 2006, 4:25 pm

Graham Benton:

Only my 4th ergo since Boston tonight ... I can't schedule a flat out effort so aimed for r24. Ended up being r25 and it was pretty horrible, even rate capped.

Result 9:37.0 1:28.7 r25

1000m @ 1:28.4 25
750m @ 1:28.8 25
500m @ 1:28.7 25
250m @ 1:28.2 26
750m @ 1:29.3 25

I did a 9:36.5 the week before Boston but that included a 1:39.something last 750m! Was on for a 9:12 before I wimped out and stopped 3 times so tonight wasn't quite a PB but I rated 29 on that attempt.

PS. I have screen shots if needed.

A real ctc.

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