Handle / Seat timing while rowing

danieldoiron · Post by **danieldoiron** » December 12th, 2006, 9:13 am

I have a question on what is recommended as timing for the handle / seat while rowing (both pulling and returning).
I have seen some places that will recommend to fully extend the legs, THEN, pull with arms - as one long continuous motion chained together.
I have seen some places that will have people pulling before the seat stops moving. Often just as the handle passes the knees.

I guess the 'recoil' is simple enough, just don't come back late enough with the handle to have to dodge your knees. ?

Any suggestions?

PS All observations where present in a C2 'well qualified people' environment.

rod7896 · Post by **rod7896** » December 12th, 2006, 10:11 am

Fully extend the legs, then pull with the arms, keeping your forearms parallel to the floor. Then, reverse the process, but more slowly on the return... don't break your knees until your arms are straight again. Nice, continuous motions.

Xeno's DVD's have great sections on technique and they are very helpful.

http://www.gorow.com/indoor_rowing_DVD.htm

danieldoiron · Post by **danieldoiron** » December 12th, 2006, 3:55 pm

Here is a video of Peter D. from C2. He is pulling earlier than I thought was recommended.

(this Forum will not let me post the link)
On C2's site, click 'Commercial Solutions', click 'CrossFit', click 'Watch a rowing demonstration'.

Is this something to stay away from as a technique?

csabour · Post by **csabour** » December 12th, 2006, 4:25 pm

"Peter D" makes oars...

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » December 12th, 2006, 4:56 pm

danieldoiron wrote:Here is a video of Peter D. from C2. He is pulling earlier than I thought was recommended.

(this Forum will not let me post the link)
On C2's site, click 'Commercial Solutions', click 'CrossFit', click 'Watch a rowing demonstration'.

Is this something to stay away from as a technique?

Aside from a small bit where he is having to bring his hands up over his knees (rest paddling after warm-up it appears), the timing all looks reasonably good to me. One could argue that the body opens a bit early, but a lot of things are happening quite quickly, and look to be well coordinated. 1:29.6 R34 is a pretty nice clip for a 500. I bet he's close to the top in his category.

Peter D 500m

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » December 12th, 2006, 5:53 pm

danieldoiron wrote:(this Forum will not let me post the link)

You're not allowed to post links until you become an established user. (That's a simple fix to the forum software to stop the spammers posting the links to their phony pharmacies.) If the limit is set how I wrote the code you're an established user after five items have been posted.

Patience.

PaulH · Post by **PaulH** » December 13th, 2006, 9:36 am

Dan - The basic rule I've been taught is to have 3 sections (legs/back/arms, arms/back/legs) and never overlap more than two. So you can start to open your back before your legs are fully flat, and you can start to bend your arms before you've swung your back all the way over, but you shouldn't be moving your arms at the same time as your leg. In practice it's hard, because you're doing all of it in a few tenths of a second!

Citroen - The limit's actually less than that, as I moved it down to 2 I think (pretty much every spammer we've had has only posted once). Great mod btw!

danieldoiron · Post by **danieldoiron** » December 13th, 2006, 4:56 pm

Thanks guys!

I especially like the 'Rule of 2/3'. It keeps it simple to observe.

I will be trying to video myself and get feedback from that also!

Thanks again.
Dan