A unscheduled break

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » October 20th, 2006, 4:36 pm

It's simple!!

Sir P is not Chad!!

Over and Out!!!!

Out is Out

Ducatista · Post by **Ducatista** » October 23rd, 2006, 1:40 pm

Where there's controversy, there's t-shirt money to be made. I think both "Hi, I'm Chad" and "I'm not Chad" would sell briskly at IRC events.

hjs · Post by **hjs** » October 23rd, 2006, 1:50 pm

I think "DA is down" would be a bestseller or

"Chad For president"

PaulH · Post by **PaulH** » October 24th, 2006, 3:14 am

Surely it should be "Free Chad"?

mpukita · Post by **mpukita** » October 24th, 2006, 8:03 pm

Pure bulls**t ... what a farce ... it really was Sir P ...

mpukita · Post by **mpukita** » October 24th, 2006, 8:09 pm

Tyn wrote:It's simple!!

Sir P is not Chad!!

Over and Out!!!!

Out is Out

Yes, but could Chad be Sir P???

Jon Goodall · Post by **Jon Goodall** » October 26th, 2006, 8:39 am

Surely people don't actually think Chad is a real person do they?

When he started posting he said he was 6ft 7in, and a couple months back said he was 6'8. Still growing in his 40's eh?

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » October 26th, 2006, 9:37 am

Jon Goodall wrote:Surely people don't actually think Chad is a real person do they?

When he started posting he said he was 6ft 7in, and a couple months back said he was 6'8. Still growing in his 40's eh?

People make typo's, but yes, I tend to believe what people say, right up until they become unbelievable, which takes some doing.

Bob S. · Post by **Bob S.** » October 26th, 2006, 12:16 pm

Jon Goodall wrote:Surely people don't actually think Chad is a real person do they? :lol:

When he started posting he said he was 6ft 7in, and a couple months back said he was 6'8. Still growing in his 40's eh? :lol:

Whoever it is, I would think that there must be more than one person involved. He admitted to (bragged about?) staging a fake 2k and getting the "V" for validation. I think that he would have had to have help to pull that one off.

I don't have too much concern about a 1" difference between two reports.

Bob S.

Jon Goodall · Post by **Jon Goodall** » October 26th, 2006, 2:55 pm

That 2k was done back in March at the South London IRC. There was 5 of us who rowed the 2k between us. There were so many questions about the IND_V codes and if it can tell the difference between relays or not, so we gave it a go.

Then a load of us wanted to take a screen shot of the display as we did a half decent time, then someone (for a bit of a laugh) decided to enter the name Chad onto the log card. Chad's name was just a last minute idea as a bit of a laugh given how many Chad posts there were at the time.

Personally, of the 5 of us that rowed that 2k, I don't think the one posting as Chad rowed in that relay.

Jon

michaelb · Post by **michaelb** » October 26th, 2006, 6:27 pm

Well this is interesting Jon, but I am not sure it is so easily explained. Maybe I don't understand how log cards and PM verification and the C2 rankings work,

But my memory was this row was ranked at C2 under Chad Williams name and profile? Did one of your group create an ranking name and Id for a Chad Williams as part of the joke? Chad may not have had any other ranking rows, so that would be possible. Chad Williams the poster here took credit for it that day or the next day, so he knew about it right away (so somebody told him about it).

I haven't used my log card in years, since I use rowpro, but I thought you created the name on the card first, and then logged in to use a name when you put the card in. How could you add the name Chad to the card after the row, and then get that row on the card under his name? Maybe that is possible with the log card utility on a computer. Hard to believe that PM3 verification could be so easily hacked if the name could be changed or added after the row.

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » October 26th, 2006, 6:40 pm

I haven't used my log card in years, since I use rowpro, but I thought you created the name on the card first, and then logged in to use a name when you put the card in. How could you add the name Chad to the card after the row, and then get that row on the card under his name? Maybe that is possible with the log card utility on a computer. Hard to believe that PM3 verification could be so easily hacked if the name could be changed or added after the row.

My thoughts exactly !!

Jon Goodall · Post by **Jon Goodall** » October 26th, 2006, 7:46 pm

OK, just to clear up exactly what happened that day:

1. 5 of us row the 2k between us.

2. We then go to press the button the get the IND_V code.

3. We then found out the Model D we just used hadn't been updated with the new software to generate the IND_V codes. (schoolboy error on our parts

)

Our fault, we just assumed the erg had the software for the codes.

4. One of the guys then takes his log card, inserts it into the PM3 on the erg we just used, and transfers the 2k row onto the card.

5. Log card is then placed into another Model D which DOES have IND_V codes, so we can now call up the code.

6. We then notice that the log card users name is displayed with the 5:44 row.

7. Log card user then jokingly changes the user name to Chad, then everyone starts taking photos of the piece.

The code wasn't hacked. Maybe it can be hacked, i've no idea. What we did learn is that the IND_V code pretty much proves that the rowed piece in question DID take place. The only downside is that the code can't tell the difference between a relay team and 1 person rowing a piece. The IND_V is a great piece of kit and a HUGE step forwards in proving that the row in question has taken place.

Sure, someone could put a relay team together, row a set piece like a 2k, 1k, 30min or whatever, get the IND_V code and rank it for themselves and have IND_V next to their name. However you'd never be able to live up to your ranked IND_V time in a public race.

Eg: I can only row a 2k in 6:22 but was part of a 5:44 relay so if I were to rank a time like that for myself I'd never be able to live up to that time in a public race, so what's the point of doing it?

Basically, had the erg we used for the row been IND_V code enabled, we wouldn't have needed a log card, so there would never been any screen shots with Chad's name on it. That was just a last minute joke at the end of it all.

I'd also like to say I was very dissappointed with the way Chad then went on to talk about it on the forum. Personally I would have been quite happy with just simply entering the code on the rankings to see if it worked then removing it.

As for who actually ranked the piece, I don't know. Loads of people took pics of the display which had the code, so the code was in fairly public view.

Hope this clears up what happened that day.

Cheers

Jon

Tyn · Post by **Tyn** » October 26th, 2006, 7:54 pm

I see the laugh in the joke and I like it!
But Jon,

Are you sure you don't know a Chad?

Cheers!!!!

Jon Goodall · Post by **Jon Goodall** » October 26th, 2006, 8:14 pm

None of my friends are called Chad, that's for sure

As for who's behind the Chad thing, I have an idea of who it is but am not joining in the whole 'I think ***** is Chad' stuff on the forum.....

I did have 3 people ask me earlier this year if I was Chad, but seeing as Chad made about 200+ posts in his first week and I don't think I've ever made more than about 20 posts in a week, and the fact I work outdoors (Window Cleaner) and am nowhere near a PC when working, kinda rules me out. I wish I had the time to post 200+ times a week, but I don't.

Some people clearly have way too much spare time on their hands

Cheers

Jon