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Post by Sir P » April 19th, 2006, 6:20 pm

John Rupp wrote:If you're a guy weighing more than 165 pounds, then you're not a lightweight.
Agree with you Mr Rupp. I way more than 165 pounds, so I am not a Lwt.

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Post by Jim Barry » April 19th, 2006, 9:56 pm

John Rupp wrote:
With a second weigh in immediately after the race, those 180 pounders would not have a chance, because they would be too dehydrated to complete

You mean their mid-race heart failure will keep them from winning?

Will they still have to weigh in post race or does the whole death thing give them a waiver?

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Post by johnlvs2run » April 19th, 2006, 10:12 pm

They'd be lucky to complete the first 500 meters.

True lightweights have a higher watts output per kilogram than do heavys -- this is why most heavys stay in the heavy division -- because it is easier.
Will they still have to weigh in post race or does the whole death thing give them a waiver?
Only those who complete the race would need to weigh in again afterwards. :wink:
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Post by TomR » April 19th, 2006, 10:39 pm

The lightweight limit is not 75 kg. According to the FISA rules:

"A male single sculler shall not weigh more than 72.5 kg."

So this 75 kg limit for erg-lightweights is either a fraudulent weight, or a design taken from nature to allow lightweights to put on an insulating layer during winter.

That said, I've seen no basis for limiting the indoor adjustment 2.5 kg. It strikes me as arbitrary, capricious even. Bears aren't limiited to a 2.5 kg weight gain. We should fix this shortcoming in the indoor-rowing rules.

Since there are many fewer rowers competing in lighweight classes indoors, I believe we should increase the limit to, say, 90 kg. On average, men are getting bigger, and so should lighweights.

I also believe Sir Pirate should be disqualified from commenting until he learns to spell. He's dragging down the quality of the discourse with his shoddy posts.

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Post by Bob S. » April 19th, 2006, 10:55 pm

TomR wrote:Bears aren't limiited to a 2.5 kg weight gain. We should fix this shortcoming in the indoor-rowing rules.
Tom
Right! It should be done as soon as the bears start competing. Come to think of it - maybe they have already - at least I have seen a few posts that look like they might have been sent by bears.

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Post by Neb154 » April 21st, 2006, 6:53 pm

John Rupp wrote:They'd be lucky to complete the first 500 meters.

True lightweights have a higher watts output per kilogram than do heavys -- this is why most heavys stay in the heavy division -- because it is easier.
Will they still have to weigh in post race or does the whole death thing give them a waiver?
Only those who complete the race would need to weigh in again afterwards. :wink:
Are you joking about staying in the heavy division because it is easier? You obviously don't understand that different people have different body types and are better suited to different divisions. It doesn't make sense for someone who is 6'9 to try and weigh 165; it isn't because they are "wimps" about tough competition.
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Post by johnlvs2run » April 21st, 2006, 8:15 pm

Not all heavys are 6' 9, in fact most of them aren't anywhere close to that.
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rowerg 56-58 5'8.5" 143# - 1:39.6 - 3:35.6 - 7:24.0 - 18:57.4 - 22:49.9 - 7793 - 38:44.7 - 1:22:48.9 - 2:58:46.2

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Post by Neb154 » April 22nd, 2006, 1:13 am

John Rupp wrote:Not all heavys are 6' 9, in fact most of them aren't anywhere close to that.
If you can't generalize about them being 6'9, then you can't generalize about them all avoiding lightweight because "it is too tough."
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