Drug Testing at BiRC?

Chad Williams · Post by **Chad Williams** » August 9th, 2006, 4:32 am

Do the organisers at BiRC & WiRC arrange for medal winners and/or random competitors to be drug tested before/after the event?

Ray79 · Post by **Ray79** » August 9th, 2006, 6:59 am

I really dont know Chad, it wouldnt seem unreasonable as even for amateur sports in Ireland testing was introduced a few years ago.

The only real way to be sure is to contact C2 and ask them directly.

Andy Burrows · Post by **Andy Burrows** » August 9th, 2006, 8:09 am

Chad Williams wrote:Do the organisers at BiRC & WiRC arrange for medal winners and/or random competitors to be drug tested before/after the event?

No they dont but maybe they should

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Chad Williams · Post by **Chad Williams** » August 9th, 2006, 8:14 am

In my view it does not matter either way. Anybody that knows how to dope properly will be clean for the tests anyway.

tomhz · Post by **tomhz** » August 9th, 2006, 9:48 am

Chad Williams wrote:In my view it does not matter either way. Anybody that knows how to dope properly will be clean for the tests anyway.

What dope would you suggest for a 2K race? And what to mask it?

Tom

Chad Williams · Post by **Chad Williams** » August 9th, 2006, 10:00 am

Blood doping is moderately safe if done properly, it is also very hard to detect. Getting the blood counts to similar levels can be done fairly easily before a drug test is required.
It does become harder if you are randomly checked weeks before an event. Rowing, from what I understand, does not do any form of drug testing.

Chad Williams · Post by **Chad Williams** » August 9th, 2006, 10:03 am

tomhz wrote:
Chad Williams wrote:In my view it does not matter either way. Anybody that knows how to dope properly will be clean for the tests anyway.
What dope would you suggest for a 2K race? And what to mask it?

Tom

It is no good doping for a one single race, it is more beneficial to dope while training, be clean for races.

Ray79 · Post by **Ray79** » August 9th, 2006, 10:53 am

Well OTW rowing at international level conforms to the WADA banned substances list.

Im not so sure about at club level, maybe for large Head races or Regattas such as Head of the River and Henley.

Jon Goodall · Post by **Jon Goodall** » August 9th, 2006, 5:08 pm

There was drug testing at the Europeans in Paris in 2003.

Personally I don't use suppliments but do eat shed loads of junk food

Given the amount of chocolate I eat, I have wondered if this would somehow make me fail a drug test if I were ever tested, especially when you keep hearing how ones fail tests

Classic one I remember was an Olympic Athlete who had a headache and wanted to take some tablets for it but couldn't because of some ingredient in the tablet would show up in a drug test. I've heard the same for stuff like Lemsip which I think is daft..... If someone wants to cheat are they really gonna go buy some Lemsip to do so

Joanvb · Post by **Joanvb** » August 9th, 2006, 5:31 pm

There's been drug testing in rowing at least since the early 70's, if not earlier.
Indoor rowing...I don't know when testing started, but I heard that there was testing at the Paris EIRC.

http://www.worldrowing.com/display/modu ... &pageid=53

ranger · Post by **ranger** » August 9th, 2006, 6:18 pm

I heard that there was testing at the Paris EIRC.

Really? I was't tested. Were you? We both won our races.

ranger

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » August 9th, 2006, 6:27 pm

Chad Williams wrote:
tomhz wrote:
Chad Williams wrote:In my view it does not matter either way. Anybody that knows how to dope properly will be clean for the tests anyway.
What dope would you suggest for a 2K race? And what to mask it?

Tom
It is no good doping for a one single race, it is more beneficial to dope while training, be clean for races.

This coming from experience or knowledge? Perhaps inference from the "Live high, train low" theory of altitude training?

I'm certain that the highest levels of performance can be achieved without all of what we are finding out goes on, but perhaps the "I want it now." mentatlity has taken over from good old fashioned "hard work".

Sad.

TomR · Post by **TomR** » August 9th, 2006, 6:47 pm

My understanding is that steroids/testosterone speed recovery and thereby enable the doper to train harder. You would want to use these substances in the months preceding the race. I have no idea how quickly the system clears steroids or what masking agents are effective. I didn't realize they could test for synthetic testosterone until the Landis story broke.

A stimulant like ephedrine presumably could be used on race day, but would surely show up in a piss test. I've no idea how much improvement it could produce. Psuedoephedrine is common in cold medicines, which is why you don't want to take cold pills if you're going to be tested.

Tom

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » August 9th, 2006, 8:08 pm

Nice article here about how it's being done:

http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/ ... 229489.htm

Joanvb · Post by **Joanvb** » August 9th, 2006, 8:41 pm

ranger wrote:
I heard that there was testing at the Paris EIRC.
Really? I was't tested. Were you? We both won our races.

ranger

I should have added, "but I didn't see any evidence." Might have just been a rumor. Assume that if there was testing it would be for the younger groups.
Don't think anyone would bother with the 50+ set.

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