500 meter Wr attempt

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500 meter Wr attempt

Post by hjs » December 18th, 2015, 5:00 am

http://indoorsportservices.co.uk/forum/ ... =2&t=26358

Shawn posted it on the uk site, but it doesn,t get much attention, so I put it here. Won,t comment here, very nice watch.... :D

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Balkan boy » December 18th, 2015, 5:11 am

Why didn't that guy in Concept2 shirt give him some instructions?
I think this guy's true discipline would be 100m with a rolling start. He could go sub 1:00. :lol:

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by hjs » December 18th, 2015, 5:27 am

Balkan boy wrote:Why didn't that guy in Concept2 shirt give him some instructions?
I think this guy's true discipline would be 100m with a rolling start. He could go sub 1:00. :lol:
Indeed, pretty stupid, also from himself, 70 seconds is never a max sprint. Sub 1.00? The power close to that pace gets so high with the cube increese, so unlikely. He is already super fit and trained.
With some training and a bit sence in pacing he ...... Etc :wink:

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Edward4492 » December 18th, 2015, 10:51 am

I don't know....I get tired of hearing how various guys are "only" 5 or 6 seconds off of Leo Young's WR. Sorry, 1:16 is a very respectable time. But it's LIGHT YEARS away from 1:10. Just ask Ross Love, the only guy to legitimately threaten the all time WR with a 1:11.9. Those last two seconds appear to be incredibly difficult to get.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Bob S. » December 18th, 2015, 11:13 am

In any case, he could do a fantastic 100m and probably 250m as well, but a 500m goes well beyond the sprint level.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by hjs » December 18th, 2015, 11:35 am

Edward4492 wrote:I don't know....I get tired of hearing how various guys are "only" 5 or 6 seconds off of Leo Young's WR. Sorry, 1:16 is a very respectable time. But it's LIGHT YEARS away from 1:10. Just ask Ross Love, the only guy to legitimately threaten the all time WR with a 1:11.9. Those last two seconds appear to be incredibly difficult to get.
Sorry Edward, the comment are ofcourse bullshit, bit yours is not much different. We see a 29 second gap!!!! between fastest and slowest stroke. Don,t think its possible to pace a piece any worse. He pulls 1.12/13 right away, with a few pacing tips. So pulling its this way is not lightyears away.

Still not the wr ofcourse. The best 500 I still have is Phallers one. Relative small and light guy pulling 1.13.x with hardly any fade. You can,t do better. The 500 is certainly not only anaerobic power.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Bob S. » December 18th, 2015, 1:52 pm

Balkan boy wrote:Why didn't that guy in Concept2 shirt give him some instructions?
I think this guy's true discipline would be 100m with a rolling start. He could go sub 1:00. :lol:
Somehow, I find it hard to take this thing as a serious WR attempt. I regard it as just another TV spectacle. With the guy going all out with a tremendous burst of power, fading in the middle, and flopping on the ground at the end, it is better theater than a really well executed 500m time trial. And only a few in the audience would be aware of the full irony of the situation.

It would be interesting to know what his 100m time was on that run. He reached that point when he was still in the early part of the fly. The first 250m part was probably quite good as well, since he had not yet faded too badly.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Citroen » December 18th, 2015, 1:54 pm

Edward4492 wrote:I don't know....I get tired of hearing how various guys are "only" 5 or 6 seconds off of Leo Young's WR. Sorry, 1:16 is a very respectable time. But it's LIGHT YEARS away from 1:10. Just ask Ross Love, the only guy to legitimately threaten the all time WR with a 1:11.9. Those last two seconds appear to be incredibly difficult to get.
It's hardly "light years".

1:11.9 == 941.6W
1:10.0 == 1020.4W

So that's an 8.4% increase for 1 minute & ten seconds duration. Some of that gain will be down to technique (as Bob infers) rather than raw power.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Bob S. » December 18th, 2015, 2:07 pm

He may well have the potential to break that record, but it would take a lot of specific erg training. I very much doubt that a professional athlete from a completely different sport would have the time or interest to put in that sort of effort. Also the kind of training that he would have to do (endurance and slow-twitch muscle development) would be counterproductive for his rugby performance.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Edward4492 » December 18th, 2015, 2:09 pm

Totally misunderstood me Doug, I meant the 5-6 seconds were light years. Ross is certainly with-in striking distance, tremendous respect there. Would really like to see him get it and have to wonder about the differences in the times on the Model "D" vs. Leo's WR on what I believe was a "B" model (not sure).

We had a guy at one of the local crossfit boxes two years ago do a very nice 1:16, and again the banter about only "a few seconds off". It's comparable to running a 1/4 mile or a 440m. 5 or 6s in a game where 1/10's are hard to come by.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Citroen » December 18th, 2015, 4:58 pm

A light year is a measure of distance.
A plain old year is a measure of time.

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Shawn Baker » December 20th, 2015, 2:55 pm

I would say he legitimately could do 1:13 with just some better pacing- much more than than would require a long dedicated effort- from a strength standpoint he's not bad (310kg deadlift) but no where close to top guys 425+ kg deads (alrhough they're mostly drugged up)

take someone like this

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AKZEk4NG1-o

And put him on the rower for 3-6months "et voila" new 500m WR
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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Balkan boy » December 20th, 2015, 3:49 pm

Extremes are usually interesting, but I'm more impressed by something like persistence hunting then lifting a big rock once.

(dramatization)
https://youtu.be/826HMLoiE_o

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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by Shawn Baker » December 20th, 2015, 4:43 pm

Balkan boy wrote:Extremes are usually interesting, but I'm more impressed by something like persistence hunting then lifting a big rock once.

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https://youtu.be/826HMLoiE_o
Nice video- but I think the 500m time will be better with the guy I posted :D
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Re: 500 meter Wr attempt

Post by hjs » December 20th, 2015, 5:25 pm



1.14.4 powerlifter.

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