Curious new rower

Yankeerunner · Post by **Yankeerunner** » April 28th, 2008, 1:32 pm

bigchief wrote:Hi Rick. My 6:21.9 was done in 2003 at age 50, while trying to qualify for the Euro Indoor. And my 28# light weight for distance record was 88' 11". That was an American Record at the time, but has been bettered several times over the 20+ years since. (WR at the time was held by Geoff Capes at 91' 5".)

Just keeping you on your toes my friend.

Chief

I have to plead guilty to lack of memory and research on the first one, and in trusting the scottishmasters.org website on the 28# throw. Maybe I'm just seeing what you did at 40+?

As a 'slightly' slower erger (6:55.7)

and, ahem, extraordinarily weaker thrower

, I can only dream of doing what you have done.

Yankeerunner · Post by **Yankeerunner** » April 30th, 2008, 7:32 am

Yankeerunner wrote:
chickenlegs wrote: you would complete 2000 m in 5'40".

that would be a new american record on the concept II erg.

Not to quibble (and the rest of your post was excellent), but to recall a Blast From The Past, I believe that the American Record remains the 5:39 (5:39.0?) that Dave Simon did as 19-year-old Brown Univ student at the 2000 CRASH-B's.

Who would have thought back then that it would have lasted so long? A lot of people probably would have bet that Dave himself would do a much faster piece when he got a bit older.

I wonder what he's doing now? I know he had some back problems.

Correction:

Upon further review I must point out that chickenlegs was right and I was wrong. Dave Simon's (still American record) time was/is 5:41.0. I must have given Dave some of the seconds that I robbed from Jim.

Since no one else corrected me I'll correct myself. I hate to leave inaccuracies out there even if they are my own.

Rick

PaulS · Post by **PaulS** » May 1st, 2008, 4:45 pm

Yankeerunner wrote:
Correction:

Upon further review I must point out that chickenlegs was right and I was wrong. Dave Simon's (still American record) time was/is 5:41.0. I must have given Dave some of the seconds that I robbed from Jim.

Since no one else corrected me I'll correct myself. I hate to leave inaccuracies out there even if they are my own.

Rick

Thanks for the correction Rick, I have mistakenly counted Dave as being one of the people to go sub-5:40. I thought I heard that during the "A fine Balance" video, but I can't bear to watch it again, and may have lapsed into some sort of inattentive state during the original viewing. I can recall the other rowers not exactly appreciating the "shoe horning" of Mr. Simon into "The eight" which had done quite well without him to that point.

Yankeerunner · Post by **Yankeerunner** » May 1st, 2008, 5:25 pm

Here are the results, from the CRASH-B.org website:

C.R.A.S.H.-B. 2000 results for event: Open Men
Place Rower Organization Heat Final Points
1 Waddell,Rob New Zealand 5:52.80 5:40.20 100.00 International
2 Simon,Dave Roop State Pen. 5:58.00 5:41.00 99.71 College
3 Beasley,Cyrus U.S. National Team 5:49.50 5:46.50 99.42 International
4 Konstantinos,Kariotis Greek Rowing Association 5:49.00 5:46.70 99.12 International
5 Mueller,Eric U.S. National Team 5:51.30 5:48.60 98.83 International
6 Murray,Tom U.S. National Team 5:51.00 5:54.00 98.54 International
7 Covney,Ian U.S. National Team 5:52.70 5:54.90 98.25 International
8 Volpenhein,Bryan U.S. National Team 5:49.90 5:55.50 97.95 International
9 Borcherding,Kurt U.S. National Team 5:50.70 5:57.90 97.66 International
10 Flickinger,Jason U.S. National Team 5:52.70 5:58.00 97.37 International
11 Murphy,James Columbia University 5:57.50 5:58.40 97.08 College
12 Winters,Eric Roop State Pen. 5:58.80 5:58.70 96.78 College
13 Davies,Kenneth Cornell University 5:59.80 5:58.90 96.49 College
14 Kaya,Sami Galatasaray Sports Club 5:53.90 5:59.10 96.20 International
15 Allen,Wyatt University Of Virginia 5:59.40 6:00.30 95.91 College
16 Walsh,Dan Northeastern University 5:59.90 6:05.40 95.61 College

The 'A Fine Balance' video is painful to watch, but it is real life and real life isn't always pretty and doesn't always have a Hollywood happy ending. So I continue to watch during long UT2s.

It was actually remembering that Shurmei became the 3rd ever under 5:40 that got me thinking to research my faulty assertion. Shurmei's sub-5:40 came well after Simon's year.

Those guys above did a heat in the morning as well (the first time shown above). Cyrus Beasley was a Newburyport boy and bought his cross-country running and high jump shoes from me when he was in high school. In a school skit he once covered himself in green body paint and played the Jolly Green Giant. I was a believable performance.