Challenge to John Foy!!

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 5th, 2008, 1:16 pm

eoinom wrote:trust me john i havent lied to you yet, i'm a man of my word i admitted the machine was wrong i never lied about the 28mins it was just that i would have no way of knowing about these settings on pm3 having never used these before i'll be honest and put my honest times up every week and then a picture of my best times.

I'd be only cheating myself i just wanna see how close i could get to a regular rower, if i loose i loose but ill give it all i have i'm fully expecting a defeat but i'll try.

Can you give me an idea of what pace i need to get near?

No worries mate.
I believe you now.

Welcome to the world of indoor rowing. The best site is the UK site at http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/
Get yourself registered over there as that is where I normally am. You can check my training diary on there as well to see what I am up to.
You should check it out as there are a few topics dedicated to you already

I am just getting back into my training at the moment but I reckon I won't be too far off PB pace.

I am training 5 - 6 days per week at present covering around 80,000metres per week.
What is you training schedule like?

John

johnlvs2run · Post by **johnlvs2run** » March 5th, 2008, 1:44 pm

John Foy wrote:a Half Marathon. 21009 Metres

21097 meters actually.

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 5th, 2008, 1:50 pm

John Rupp wrote:
John Foy wrote:a Half Marathon. 21009 Metres
21097 meters actually.

D'oh!

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » March 5th, 2008, 1:59 pm

John Foy wrote: Welcome to the world of indoor rowing. The best site is the UK site at http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/
Get yourself registered over there as that is where I normally am. You can check my training diary on there as well to see what I am up to.
You should check it out as there are a few topics dedicated to you already

And when you're over there check out the PaddyPowerIRC club thread http://www.concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... =12&t=8969

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 5th, 2008, 2:02 pm

alright man , i'll be honest my training sucks i just wanna see what benefit a month of training has i'll post up my first time here on friday hopefully it will be under the 40 mins .

Whats your P.B. for 10k??
A few posts dedicated to me already?? Come on you have to admit John it was an honest mistake for a new comer to assume that was the time.

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » March 5th, 2008, 2:09 pm

eoinom wrote:alright man , i'll be honest my training sucks i just wanna see what benefit a month of training has i'll post up my first time here on friday hopefully it will be under the 40 mins .

Whats your P.B. for 10k??
A few posts dedicated to me already?? Come on you have to admit John it was an honest mistake for a new comer to assume that was the time.

It wasn't even your fault. Some PM3s have a hardware jumper to define which type they default to when the batteries go dead for more than half an hour. If that isn't set correctly you simply have to go by prior knowledge.

When it's set wrong the numbers simply don't look right, the drag factor number will be too high. (I sit in an ivory tower since I have my own PM4 (a free gift from Concept2) that I mount on either a model C or model D when I go into the gym.)

eoinom · Post by **eoinom** » March 5th, 2008, 2:11 pm

Hey John , just had a look at the uk forum have to say im a bit taken a aback by some of the comments calling me an arrogant p***k i understand this is your sport and fully expect it to be a near impossible task but hey its something different if you think its arrogant of me to ask i'll walk away now and leave the forum. Its not meant to be that way merely a bit of crack to keep training fun.

I do a lot of sports i've never tried before over here in Ireland with work mates and that and everything is taken in good banter and a few pints are had by all afterwards, not really used to this level of agression over a bit of fun so thinking about leaving it to you's on here now it all seems a bit cut throat.

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 5th, 2008, 2:12 pm

eoinom wrote:alright man , i'll be honest my training sucks i just wanna see what benefit a month of training has i'll post up my first time here on friday hopefully it will be under the 40 mins .

Whats your P.B. for 10k??
A few posts dedicated to me already?? Come on you have to admit John it was an honest mistake for a new comer to assume that was the time.

Absolutely, I agree with you.
You may have done some good because your post led to me proving the ability to cheat the Ind_V ranking code.

My PB is 37 and a half minutes I think - It says below in my signature.

Nosmo · Post by **Nosmo** » March 5th, 2008, 2:28 pm

eoinom,

I don't see anyway you could possible win this. A sub 40 would be really good but his PB of 37:45 is completely out of reach.

Just to make this interesting, if you can beat me, I'll send you a concept II T-Shirt for free. Your choice of style and size. No bet just motivation for you.

Haven't done a 10K in a long time but my last years best was 38:50. I should be faster now but don't really have any idea of how much faster. I'm not going to promise doing more then one 10K this month.

If you are going to do well in this challenge, get yourself the how to row DVD video from Concept II. Also video tape yourself rowing and post it on U-Tube and then ask for advice on this forum. Do this at least once a week.

Since you are a marathon runner, your endurance is better so you would be better if the challenge was as long as possible. You would have had a much better chance of beating him at the half marathon then the 10K.

FIY, I can easily beat John's HM PB any day of the week, but there is no way I can touch his 10K, and his 2K PB is a good 25 seconds faster then mine.

(Edited for typos and clarity.)

Nosmo
47 yrs, 5'7" (171cm) 150 lbs (68 kg)

ancho · Post by **ancho** » March 5th, 2008, 2:37 pm

Hey, Foyboy!
I now weigh 1kg less than you, am 15 years older, and have no own fitness club.

But I'd challenge you for a 10k (or for an HM).
I think I've seen some pics of your house, and I like it!

eoinom: If you go sub40, you have a free beer anytime you come to Barcelona!

John Foy: same thing for you!

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 5th, 2008, 2:48 pm

ancho wrote:Hey, Foyboy!
I now weigh 1kg less than you, am 15 years older, and have no own fitness club.

But I'd challenge you for a 10k (or for an HM).
I think I've seen some pics of your house, and I like it!

eoinom: If you go sub40, you have a free beer anytime you come to Barcelona!
John Foy: same thing for you!

I can't get near you Ancho but please feel free to take part.
My house is not part of the deal though!

Citroen · Post by **Citroen** » March 5th, 2008, 3:05 pm

Here's an idea or two ...

Everyone who wants to play, rows 1609m and posts it on http://C2CTC.COM having signed up as a member of John's team ("Village Leisure Liverpool").

Or everyone posts on http://Nonathlon.com and you use that system to even out the results.

chgoss · Post by **chgoss** » March 5th, 2008, 5:53 pm

eoinom wrote:Hey John , just had a look at the uk forum have to say im a bit taken a aback by some of the comments calling me an arrogant p***k i understand this is your sport and fully expect it to be a near impossible task but hey its something different if you think its arrogant of me to ask i'll walk away now and leave the forum. Its not meant to be that way merely a bit of crack to keep training fun.

I do a lot of sports i've never tried before over here in Ireland with work mates and that and everything is taken in good banter and a few pints are had by all afterwards, not really used to this level of agression over a bit of fun so thinking about leaving it to you's on here now it all seems a bit cut throat.

Try not to get to put off by the aggression, the forum is typically very supportive once they realize you are an honest new comer... I think you just kind of got put in the wrong bucket immediately...

John Foy · Post by **John Foy** » March 5th, 2008, 6:10 pm

chgoss wrote:
eoinom wrote:Hey John , just had a look at the uk forum have to say im a bit taken a aback by some of the comments calling me an arrogant p***k i understand this is your sport and fully expect it to be a near impossible task but hey its something different if you think its arrogant of me to ask i'll walk away now and leave the forum. Its not meant to be that way merely a bit of crack to keep training fun.

I do a lot of sports i've never tried before over here in Ireland with work mates and that and everything is taken in good banter and a few pints are had by all afterwards, not really used to this level of agression over a bit of fun so thinking about leaving it to you's on here now it all seems a bit cut throat.
Try not to get to put off by the aggression, the forum is typically very supportive once they realize you are an honest new comer... I think you just kind of got put in the wrong bucket immediately...

I think everybody is on your side now mate.
As chgoss says, I mistook you for one of our usual BS speakers when in fact you seem like a decent bloke.

There is only one person on their calling you a name and others have jumped to your defence.

It's up to you if you want to keep going.

Regards,

RowtheRockies · Post by **RowtheRockies** » March 5th, 2008, 8:37 pm

John Foy wrote:
eoinom wrote:alright man , i'll be honest my training sucks i just wanna see what benefit a month of training has i'll post up my first time here on friday hopefully it will be under the 40 mins .

Whats your P.B. for 10k??
A few posts dedicated to me already?? Come on you have to admit John it was an honest mistake for a new comer to assume that was the time.
Absolutely, I agree with you.
You may have done some good because your post led to me proving the ability to cheat the Ind_V ranking code.

My PB is 37 and a half minutes I think - It says below in my signature.

John,

Hate to drag an old scandal from the closet but could this have played any role itn the DA/Chad saga?

Rich