CRASH-Bs 2014 One Person's View
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Great write up. Thanks for taking the time. Made me sorry I missed the fun.
Hopefully next yr.
Stay well.
Ernie
Hopefully next yr.
Stay well.
Ernie
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Ernie, you were conspicuous in your absence. The Sledgehammer t-shirt has become an integral part of the day. Be there next year! 

55-59: 1:33.5 3:19.2 6:55.7 18:22.0 2:47:26.5
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
Re: CRASH-Bs 2014 One Person's View
Rick,
Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
Discuss, if you can, please.
Tom
Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
Discuss, if you can, please.
Tom
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Re: CRASH-Bs 2014 One Person's View
Fly and die, but he showed up, competed, and stuck it out to the finish.TomR wrote:Rick,
Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
Discuss, if you can, please.
Tom
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Event: Veteran Men (Age 60-64)TomR wrote:Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
25, Cureton Richard, Unaffiliated, 08:39.9, 63
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65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5
65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5
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If you wanna see the train wreck in full action, look at roys blog on the uk site. Funny, ungly and sad in one...TomR wrote:Rick,
Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
Discuss, if you can, please.
Tom
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWUi3l1- ... gondK-cPae
Here it is. Left to right in the front row, Rocket Roy Brook (60-64 lwt hammer, in 6:55.8), ranger (coxed by his personable daughter Hailey), Mike van Beuren (Silver Medal). Second row left to right is Alain Mangin of France (winner of the 65-69 lwt, in 7:04) on #54, me on #55, and Steve Sirico on #56.
Here it is. Left to right in the front row, Rocket Roy Brook (60-64 lwt hammer, in 6:55.8), ranger (coxed by his personable daughter Hailey), Mike van Beuren (Silver Medal). Second row left to right is Alain Mangin of France (winner of the 65-69 lwt, in 7:04) on #54, me on #55, and Steve Sirico on #56.
55-59: 1:33.5 3:19.2 6:55.7 18:22.0 2:47:26.5
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
Re: CRASH-Bs 2014 One Person's View
That's a generous characterization of madness, i.e. doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome.Bob S. wrote:Fly and die, but he showed up, competed, and stuck it out to the finish.TomR wrote:Rick,
Did I truly see a reference to "the Curetons." As in The Cureton, himself?
But didn't see any race results for the aforesaid person.
Discuss, if you can, please.
Tom
I had to stop watching the second time he put the handle down. It's like a bad reality tv show.
His result on the Crash-B site is listed as heavyweight, even though he is racing between the two elfs, Roy and Mike.
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Weird. He clearly believed that he A) would make lightweight, having entered as such (and probably being, as he puts it, "weigh-in-able") and that B ) he would smoke the field, having brought his daughter to witness his greatness. Estimates from borderline lightweights who saw him ranged from 10 to 20 pounds overweight. Yet even with that much fuel in his system he couldn't get beyond 2 minutes before running out of energy. Can he be that clueless about his own self? It would seem so.TomR wrote:
I had to stop watching the second time he put the handle down. It's like a bad reality tv show.
His result on the Crash-B site is listed as heavyweight, even though he is racing between the two elfs, Roy and Mike.
What continues to totally amaze and baffle me is how someone who was once so good (6:27.5, 6:28.5 Hwt 2002, 6:28.0 lwt 2003. Legitimate, I was there at CRASH-Bs and BIRC when he did them) and must have been mentally tough at that time, could have become.....this. I've never seen anything like it.
55-59: 1:33.5 3:19.2 6:55.7 18:22.0 2:47:26.5
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
60-64: 1:35.9 3:23.8 7:06.7 18:40.8 2:48:53.6
65-69: 1:38.6 3:31.9 7:19.2 19:26.6 3:02:06.0
70-74: 1:40.2 3:33.4 7:32.6 19:50.5 3:06:36.8
75-76: 1:43.9 3:47.7 7:50.2 20:51.3 3:13:55.7
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One has to wonder at the motivation for coming to Crash-B for Cureton. This is a guy who only a couple of years ago was talking about rowing in the low six minutes for 2K and lecturing others for their poor rowing techniques. What is evident is a guy immensely out of shape, who had to stop after about 6-700 meters with an atrocious rowing form - even the handle is drastically lopsided. It's almost not believable. Is this a comedy skit?
I know that in the 2012 season, Apr, 2012, I posted a 6:40.7, 66, in 60+ HWt, C2Log. Right behind me is Rich Cureton, 61, at 6:42.1, IND. I had my doubts then. Now I know that was totally bogus.
I still don't understand why that guy was in Boston.
I know that in the 2012 season, Apr, 2012, I posted a 6:40.7, 66, in 60+ HWt, C2Log. Right behind me is Rich Cureton, 61, at 6:42.1, IND. I had my doubts then. Now I know that was totally bogus.
I still don't understand why that guy was in Boston.
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65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5
65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5
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Be careful what you say, whatever he has said, however he has trained, he did once, legitimately, hold the World Record in his class set at the world's, and that feat, at least deserves some respect.Cyclingman1 wrote:One has to wonder at the motivation for coming to Crash-B for Cureton. This is a guy who only a couple of years ago was talking about rowing in the low six minutes for 2K and lecturing others for their poor rowing techniques. What is evident is a guy immensely out of shape, who had to stop after about 6-700 meters with an atrocious rowing form - even the handle is drastically lopsided. It's almost not believable. Is this a comedy skit?
I know that in the 2012 season, Apr, 2012, I posted a 6:40.7, 66, in 60+ HWt, C2Log. Right behind me is Rich Cureton, 61, at 6:42.1, IND. I had my doubts then. Now I know that was totally bogus.
I still don't understand why that guy was in Boston.
I am not a Ranger apologist, and I think his posts were over the top, but he did accomplish one great thing, and I suspect that his zeal to perform as a lightweight is what has doomed his more recent attempts.
Just my opinion
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Agree with that- and in 2012 he very well could have done a 6:42.1. For that matter he might have been capable of that this year in Boston, but we all know how the wheels can fall off..............my 2 cents........C2JonWBe careful what you say, whatever he has said, however he has trained, he did once, legitimately, hold the World Record in his class set at the world's, and that feat, at least deserves some respect.
I am not a Ranger apologist, and I think his posts were over the top, but he did accomplish one great thing, and I suspect that his zeal to perform as a lightweight is what has doomed his more recent attempts.
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I think his wheels were already loosened when Rich made weight by horrendous deliberate dehydration, pulled that 7:02.3 but didn't have the courtesy & honour to bother to collect his bronze medal at the British IRC in 2010.c2jonw wrote:but we all know how the wheels can fall off..............my 2 cents........C2JonW
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There was one report that said he spent a couple of hours on a warmup machine before the race. Possibly he was doing that to try to make weight. It would not be the first time that he exercised heavily in some way just before a race to make weight, but this time it obviously didn't work.
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It is Cureton himself who has confused his own record and legitimacy. His nonsensical posts undermine his rowing past. I really do not know which of his times are legit. I know that as far back as 2006, he rowed 7:04 at Crash-B. That is quite a ways from 6:42. I do know that the person I saw in this most recent Crash-B video could not have been even a good rower in the last few years. The rowing form was atrocious with the handle twisted at a peculiar angle.Dickie wrote:Be careful what you say, whatever he has said, however he has trained, he did once, legitimately, hold the World Record in his class set at the world's, and that feat, at least deserves some respect.
I guess I lack the nostalgia gene.
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65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5
65-69: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:30.8 3:14.1 6:40.7 17:34.0 21:18.1 36:21.7 30;60;HM: 8337 16237 1:20:25
70-79: .5,1,2,5,6,10K: 1:32.7 3:19.5 6:58.1 17:55.3 21:32.6 36:41.9 30;60;HM: 8214 15353 1:23:02.5