joint initiative between Concept2 and World Rowing

[mmayzak]

I am excited about the partnership and potential for more competitions... Both virtual and regional/local.

Bring it!

Mike from Oklahoma

[hjs]

Take the BEST Crossfitters in the world for example.. say Froning and Khalipa... also 2 of the larger/heavier/stronger athletes... they are 1:19 - 1:21 on 500m.

Khalipa won both the 2k and HM in Crossfit Games '13, at 6:21 and 1:18:02. Pretty decent times, especially since the 2k was the start of the HM

Decent is a the right word

[PowerRower]

Yes that's my point... its just decent by "elite" standards.

[Shawn Baker]

While I agree the top crossfit guys are too short to dominate the rowing, the sport definitely gives indoor rowing much greater exposure- likely some 6'7" guy who sucks at the gymnastic parts of crossfit might find he is well suited to rowing and might give it a serious go- take Luke W from South Africa as an example

[T_M]

While I agree the top crossfit guys are too short to dominate the rowing, the sport definitely gives indoor rowing much greater exposure- likely some 6'7" guy who sucks at the gymnastic parts of crossfit might find he is well suited to rowing and might give it a serious go- take Luke W from South Africa as an example

Ditto that. Look at the exposure CF created for weightlifting. To Shawn's point, my number 2 son is a CFer and competes in team competitions...he's rather tall as far as CF athletes go (6') and is always the guy assigned to the rowing portion of the comps.

[Edward4492]

There's a local guy in my area, Richard Pruyn, came from crossfit. Real beast (saw a screenshot of a 25k he did at 18r and 1:50 pace). Got down to 6:02 for 2k; haven't seen him this season, I know he was getting married. Point being he's a big guy (30yr old) not at Ross's level; got pretty close to world class times. As has been stated, most cf'ers won't specialize enough to totally max out their erg potential. Anyway you slice, cf has been a shot in the arm for c2.

[hjs]

There's a local guy in my area, Richard Pruyn, came from crossfit. Real beast (saw a screenshot of a 25k he did at 18r and 1:50 pace). Got down to 6:02 for 2k; haven't seen him this season, I know he was getting married. Point being he's a big guy (30yr old) not at Ross's level; got pretty close to world class times. As has been stated, most cf'ers won't specialize enough to totally max out their erg potential. Anyway you slice, cf has been a shot in the arm for c2.

And only trained half a year seriously. He was no sprinter, above 2k certainly better than Ross, who is in the first place a powerman, 2k is relative not the same level.

[jackarabit]

Early Bird contributions from some of the "usual suspects" on the forum:

Greg Smith 3:25.5
Mike Mayzak 3:26.4
Dean Didion 3:29.9
Henry J. 3:56.9
Jack Gilmore 4:16.2

[PowerRower]

There's a local guy in my area, Richard Pruyn, came from crossfit. Real beast (saw a screenshot of a 25k he did at 18r and 1:50 pace). Got down to 6:02 for 2k; haven't seen him this season, I know he was getting married. Point being he's a big guy (30yr old) not at Ross's level; got pretty close to world class times. As has been stated, most cf'ers won't specialize enough to totally max out their erg potential. Anyway you slice, cf has been a shot in the arm for c2.

And only trained half a year seriously. He was no sprinter, above 2k certainly better than Ross, who is in the first place a powerman, 2k is relative not the same level.

I talk to Richard from time to time... but his 2k was/is not better than mine... maybe you have a typo there?

I trained for the 2k for 3 months, 13 weeks to be exact. Provided I stay healthy this year, which 2k training is very easy on my back.. its the sprint stuff that gets me. I will train the entire year this year with 2k goals in mind because next year my goal is sub 5:50 in Boston. I dont see any reason why I wont be faster than that.

I will also be doing a 1k tomorrow as it was a coincidence that it actually coincides with the C2 Challenge. I had already planned a 1k WR attemp post Boston.. we will see soon enough. I had a great day Wednesday with a 750m that felt relatively easy.

I am also no longer a power man.. lol I cant even lift weights anymore. Havent been able to for 2 years. I am however an athlete still.

[PowerRower]

C2 picked a bad year to do this competition, unless its a yearly thing... I was really hoping you would see some of the big names throw down on this test like the American that just went 5:40.0 and Fournier, but being an Olympic year I doubt they will bother... hell they may not have bothered anyways. I would just like to see where I stack up among the best.

[hjs]

There's a local guy in my area, Richard Pruyn, came from crossfit. Real beast (saw a screenshot of a 25k he did at 18r and 1:50 pace). Got down to 6:02 for 2k; haven't seen him this season, I know he was getting married. Point being he's a big guy (30yr old) not at Ross's level; got pretty close to world class times. As has been stated, most cf'ers won't specialize enough to totally max out their erg potential. Anyway you slice, cf has been a shot in the arm for c2.

And only trained half a year seriously. He was no sprinter, above 2k certainly better than Ross, who is in the first place a powerman, 2k is relative not the same level.

I talk to Richard from time to time... but his 2k was/is not better than mine... maybe you have a typo there?

I trained for the 2k for 3 months, 13 weeks to be exact. Provided I stay healthy this year, which 2k training is very easy on my back.. its the sprint stuff that gets me. I will train the entire year this year with 2k goals in mind because next year my goal is sub 5:50 in Boston. I dont see any reason why I wont be faster than that.

I will also be doing a 1k tomorrow as it was a coincidence that it actually coincides with the C2 Challenge. I had already planned a 1k WR attemp post Boston.. we will see soon enough. I had a great day Wednesday with a 750m that felt relatively easy.

I am also no longer a power man.. lol I cant even lift weights anymore. Havent been able to for 2 years. I am however an athlete still.

Ross, relative speaking, not absolute your 2k is weaker. Your pb is a few seconds faster. Rich only raced one winter snd was well on his way to a good way below 6. His 500 was certainly not your level, that waa my point.

A guy who has 1.12 and 5.59 is in my book a power man. Not one 5.40 erger pulled that 1.12.

Given your current overall fitness I also can,t see any reason why your should improve a good bit, lots of room to improve.

Good luck with your TT, looks very promising.

Re Top dogs, those guys are at their peak in summer otw season, not in winter. If there was some money involved it sube could help. Certainly would be great to see.

[dwalk]

The guy who just dropped the 5:40 is Matt Miller. He has a youtube video out of him doing the crossfit max calories in 2 min challenge. I believe he went 1:19 pace for the 2 min.

[PowerRower]

The guy who just dropped the 5:40 is Matt Miller. He has a youtube video out of him doing the crossfit max calories in 2 min challenge. I believe he went 1:19 pace for the 2 min.

Yes I have seen the video... would love to be able to compete against people of those abilities as it would bring out the best in myself.

[PowerRower]

HJS

I understand your rationale, but I have done 6, 2k's ever. The greatest differential in time is inexperience to distance IMO. I think I am good for a 5:56 - 5:57 2k right now.. the conditions in Boston for ME were absolutely brutal and I did nothing to help myself all day long. Knowing what I know now things will be different for next year. Cheers

[hjs]

HJS

I understand your rationale, but I have done 6, 2k's ever. The greatest differential in time is inexperience to distance IMO. I think I am good for a 5:56 - 5:57 2k right now.. the conditions in Boston for ME were absolutely brutal and I did nothing to help myself all day long. Knowing what I know now things will be different for next year. Cheers

No doubt, my only point was that both of you guys are (where for Rich?) relative beginners, and you being the more natural sprinter and Rich having more at the endurance side.

Re Races, it always crap, me being a vet, my races are aways early in the day, pretty horrible. No doubt you learned, I have seen you race, you pulled it pretty good pacing wise.

Re distance, 2k s are very aerobic, its not for nothing no non otw guy ever got in the low 5.40 ies. Lots of volume and suberbe aerobic fitness is needed.