Competition times as verified workouts

[Bob S.]

A while after I posted the long blathering paragraph full of excuses, the real reason for not getting a verification code occurred to me. I had assumed that we were not allowed to touch any of the buttons. That is the case before he race. The drag factor is already available for display when the monitor is being controlled by the race network. You can take a few strokes to see and there is a bit of time available to readjust the damper setting if necessary. However, no button pushing is allowed. My assumption was that the buttons were still off-limits after the race. I may be wrong about that. There might be a period between the time that the last rower in the heat finishes and the system is reset for the next heat. Scott would definitely know the answer to that. He was the one on the platform directing the crew of the control center. JonW is another who would know all the details. Dougie, our moderator, has regularly run a small ergatta himself, so he probably knows the answer as well.

After causing a false start at a Crash-B 20 years ago by taking a few practice strokes, I tend to err on the side of caution.

[Yankeerunner]

On the PM5 I've been pushing the DISPLAY button at the bottom of the monitor after racing and it brings up the splits. I haven't thought to try to get the verification code. After copying the splits via camera or pen & paper, hitting the MENU button brings the screen back to the race screen.

P.S. I tried to get splits at a race that was still using PM3s and couldn't get off the race screen.

[Bob S.]

On the PM5 I've been pushing the DISPLAY button at the bottom of the monitor after racing and it brings up the splits. I haven't thought to try to get the verification code. After copying the splits via camera or pen & paper, hitting the MENU button brings the screen back to the race screen.

P.S. I tried to get splits at a race that was still using PM3s and couldn't get off the race screen.

Well, if it let you use that button, then there is a good possibility that it will let you go after the VC. Having a camera handy is a great idea. The 16 character VC takes a long time to copy and check. It is easy to make a mistake and not catch it. I guess that the back-light stays on with the race network attached. It was a nuisance on the practice machines with the new PM5s. The light was always going out in the middle of my writing down the VC. With my crappy eyesight it was a real PItA.

[Citroen]

Kind of stupid isn't it ?

The monitor still has the internal memory so you could still find your result and get a code.

Best to take a note pad with you and write it down before you leave the Erg.

It comes from the days of the PM3A and early PM4s. Inserting a logcard in an arena with a dry atmosphere was prone to crashing the whole racing set-up (due to static), delaying the start of the race because the laptop running it ended up needing a reboot.

Pressing [CHANGE UNITS] or [CHANGE DISPLAY] (can't remember which) at the end of a race should give you the splits.

[Bob S.]

Kind of stupid isn't it ?

The monitor still has the internal memory so you could still find your result and get a code.

Best to take a note pad with you and write it down before you leave the Erg.

It comes from the days of the PM3A and early PM4s. Inserting a logcard in an arena with a dry atmosphere was prone to crashing the whole racing set-up (due to static), delaying the start of the race because the laptop running it ended up needing a reboot.

Pressing [CHANGE UNITS] or [CHANGE DISPLAY] (can't remember which) at the end of a race should give you the splits.

What about a verification code?

[Citroen]

What about a verification code?

I don't think it's possible with the Venue Racing software running.

[Bob S.]

What about a verification code?

I don't think it's possible with the Venue Racing software running.

That was my assumption. I didn't even dare try touching a button.

[Bob S.]

It comes from the days of the PM3A and early PM4s. Inserting a logcard in an arena with a dry atmosphere was prone to crashing the whole racing set-up (due to static), delaying the start of the race because the laptop running it ended up needing a reboot.

What is the situation with the PM5s? I have the impression that putting a memory stick in is not a simple operation. The one and only time I tried (on a practice machine), it was a hopeless case and most everything I read on the forum reinforces that view.

[Citroen]

I've never tried a PM5 with Venue Racing. It should be OK for static sensitivity, they fixed that problem.

[lcantey]

What is the situation with the PM5s? I have the impression that putting a memory stick in is not a simple operation. The one and only time I tried (on a practice machine), it was a hopeless case and most everything I read on the forum reinforces that view.

Do you men in general? I use a USB stick in my PM5 everyday. It definitely helps to have the latest firmware, fairly new batteries, and a USB charger plugged in. With this setup I very rarely see any issues but some USB sticks require a lot more power than others so if you continually have issues then trying a different one (preferably lower capacity) may help.

[Bob S.]

Do you men in general? I use a USB stick in my PM5 everyday. It definitely helps to have the latest firmware, fairly new batteries, and a USB charger plugged in. With this setup I very rarely see any issues but some USB sticks require a lot more power than others so if you continually have issues then trying a different one (preferably lower capacity) may help.

I have had made only one attempt to use a memory stick in a PM5, and as I said, it was hopeless. However, I did not judge the monitor on the basis of that one incident. What has formed my opinion was the spate of forum posts from members trying two find answers to the many, many problems that have come up with the PM5s. Yes, there have been some positive responses, like yours. But there were not enough to counterbalance the flood of negative messages. The introduction of the PM4 was a good move. It is too bad that C2 never followed up on the promise of upgrades to make it even better. Instead, it has just been abandoned and dropped out of production. I don't know what I will do with my own machine it the PM4 on it goes out. I have no intention of ever equipping it with a PM5.

[Dickie]

Do you men in general? I use a USB stick in my PM5 everyday. It definitely helps to have the latest firmware, fairly new batteries, and a USB charger plugged in. With this setup I very rarely see any issues but some USB sticks require a lot more power than others so if you continually have issues then trying a different one (preferably lower capacity) may help.

I have had made only one attempt to use a memory stick in a PM5, and as I said, it was hopeless. However, I did not judge the monitor on the basis of that one incident. What has formed my opinion was the spate of forum posts from members trying two find answers to the many, many problems that have come up with the PM5s. Yes, there have been some positive responses, like yours. But there were not enough to counterbalance the flood of negative messages. The introduction of the PM4 was a good move. It is too bad that C2 never followed up on the promise of upgrades to make it even better. Instead, it has just been abandoned and dropped out of production. I don't know what I will do with my own machine it the PM4 on it goes out. I have no intention of ever equipping it with a PM5.

I just upgraded from a PM2+ to PM5 on my model C 2 months ago, I have not had any issues. i don't like that the backlight goes off so soon after you stop, but this is any easy work around. I downloaded ergdata to my android smartphone and was able to connect wirelessly, very nice.

Fred Dickie

[ArmandoChavezUNC]

Just a quick update - at some point, my 2k became "race" verified on the rankings. I didn't ask anyone for it (other than posting on this forum about it), it just seemed to happen by magic!

[Citroen]

Just a quick update - at some point, my 2k became "race" verified on the rankings. I didn't ask anyone for it (other than posting on this forum about it), it just seemed to happen by magic!

That's normal when the race organisers send their results data to Concept2.

[Dickie]

I don't know if this has made the thread previously ( I have read it all but I honestly don't remember) but it is possible to get the verification code off a 'Race" machine during the competition. After all competitors have finished the race you were in, press the 'Display' Key to get your splits screen, then the key to get your verification code, when done press the menu key and the display snaps back to the Race Screen. I used this successfully at the Queen City Icebreaker race this weekend.