New Danish ligth weight record - 2nd fastest time ever

[Anders]

Today at the Danish Nationals Henrik Stephansen broke Eskild Ebbesens Danish record - the same record which was the WR until Luini broke it.
Henrik erged 6:03.0!! This is then also the sceond fastest time ever by a light weight.

Mads Rasmussen finished second in 6:06.5 and Rasmus Quist third in 6:08.6.

Eskild ended up in a rather unusual situation of not getting a medal and this though he rowed 6:09.0.

We expect to have pictures ready soon and I will follow up with more info.

Cheers,

Anders

[mikvan52]

Great News!

We saw Henrik row in Dresden in December. He seemed very determined as usual and now he's moved up the ladder one more rung.

I imagine he'll be ready for even more improvement in Boston.

=Mike vB=

[Anders]

http://www.ergometertider.dk/result.php?loeb=1178

It seems that Henrik forgot to settle in.
Notice Anders Christensen - he seemed to want to see how long he could stay ahead in one of the fastest light weight races ever... Eventually he had a rendezvous with reality.

The preliminaries required sub 6:26 to make the finals (just to be among top 12).

Cheers,

Anders

[johnlvs2run]

Anders, great news! Thanks for sharing.

Congratulations to Henrik, and to everyone who participated in the epic event.

[ranger]

Interesting to see that Eskild no longer rates 40 spm, not that 39 spm is dawdling.

Age takes its toll.

11.5 SPI @ 39 spm.

It will be important for the history of the sport to see what happens to this combination stroking power and rate in such a great lightweight champion as the years go by.

My guess is that his stroking power will stay just about the same but that he'll lose about 3 spm a decade.

So it goes.

Eskild is now 35.

So...

At 45, 11.5 SPI @ 36 spm: 6:18

At 55, 11.5 SPI @ 33 spm: 6:30

At 65, 11.5 SPI @ 30 spm: 6:42

In terms of MPS, this arc over the ages goes this way:

35 8.34 MPS

45 8.82 MPS

55 9.30 MPS

65 9.95 MPS

So, given his reduced aerobic capacity, by the time Eskild is 65, he will no longer to able to trade rate for pace and will pull 10 MPS.

ranger

[mikvan52]

... to see what happens to this combination stroking power and rate in such a great lightweight champion as the years go by.

rate will go down and watts will go down too.... extremely simple to predict.

Another subject: Notice: All twelve finishers : not a single 500m section rowed under 35 strokes per minute.

[johnlvs2run]

Today at the Danish Nationals Henrik Stephansen broke Eskild Ebbesens Danish record - the same record which was the WR until Luini broke it.
Henrik erged 6:03.0!! This is then also the second fastest time ever by a light weight.

After 6:19.9 to warm up!

[place]

Just to clear things up on the preliminaries:

The preliminaries was rowed yesterday (saturday) and the finals today (sunday).

[Anders]

Age takes its toll.
11.5 SPI @ 39 spm.
It will be important for the history of the sport to see what happens to this combination stroking power and rate in such a great lightweight champion as the years go by.

My guess is that his stroking power will stay just about the same but that he'll lose about 3 spm a decade.

So it goes.

Eskild is now 35.

So...

At 45, 11.5 SPI @ 36 spm: 6:18
At 55, 11.5 SPI @ 33 spm: 6:30
At 65, 11.5 SPI @ 30 spm: 6:42

Well, of course Eskild and his compardres will never be able to match your performance ones they reach your age. It is clear that Eskild is severely suffering from his advancing age

Points to ponder:
A few weeks back he only managed 1:40.9 avg in a one hour time trial. This is an entire 1 sec slower than his 1:39.9 PB which he rowed some years back. Soon he will have a hard time splitting 1:43.9 as he did a few years back in a 2 hour time trial.

Anyway, I got curious and just had to look up how badly his performance has deteriorated.

This year he was 1.2 sec faster than at the Danish Nationals last year though he did a higher SPM rate last year.
To the best of my recollection Eskild is usually keeping it around 38SPM (+-2) but most likely it is just me that don’t know what I am talking about. I have been under the assumption that Eskild exchange rate for power ones the acid build up and becomes unbearable - but what do I know.

He was 0.3 sec slower this time than at the Danish Nationals 2003 where he rowed 6:08.7. Then again he did an unofficial WR during training in 2004 completing the 2K in 6:03.7. Trying to repeat it and make it official two weeks later he only managed a +30 WR of 6:06.4 (I guess he hit his age tipping point in those two weeks).

I am not trying to claim that Eskild rowing 6:09 today maybe could have gone 6:08 tomorrow - or 6:10 and that maybe we don’t really can tell what impact age have had with him from this race - I have absolutely no mandate to claim anything on Eskilds behalf (or any other rower for that matter).

I will make no guesses on what times Eskild, Mads, Rasmus or Henrik will do once they are 55, 65. That they will erg 6:30 at the age of 55 would, at least for Eskild and Mads, mean they would be avg. the same speed they today manage in a 10K.

In all honersty I find it slightly difficult to anticipate how these specific ergers will develop in the future. They have by deffinition already proven not to be average. Further more, it will require them to keep going for us to find out. Just maybe they will get tired of the erg before reaching the age of 55.

Cheers,

Anders

[ranger]

Well, of course Eskild and his compardres will never be able to match your performance ones they reach your age.

Not at all.

As things stand right now, these projected times for Eskild are all well beyond the existing lwt WRs at all ages: 40, 50, 55, 60, 65.

The 40s lwt WR is 6:18.

So, the prediction is that Eskild will beat it by 5 seconds.

The 50s lwt WR is 6:26.

So, the prediction is that Eskild will beat it by 2 seconds.

No 55s lwt has come anywhere near pulling 6:30 for 2K.

The 55s lwt WR is 6:38.

So the prediction is that Eskild will beat it by 8 seconds.

The 60s lwt WR is 6:42.

So the prediction is that Eskild will beat it by 6 seconds.

The 65s lwt WR is 7:01.5.

So the prediction is that Eskild will beat it by 20 seconds.

No one is being slighted here.

I don't have to be persuaded of Eskild's ability!

He's the greatest.

ranger

[johnlvs2run]

My guess is that his stroking power will stay just about the same but that he'll lose about 3 spm a decade.

So it goes.

Eskild is now 35.

If so...

Eskild will row 6:09 at age 45, at 36 spm;

6:09 at age 55, at 33 spm;

6:09 at age 65, at 30 spm;

6:09 at age 75, at 27 spm;

6:09 at age 85, at 24 spm;

6:09 at age 95, at 21 spm!

I'm very impressed by this!

In fact, this will prove that rowers can get stronger as they age!

[ranger]

A few weeks back he only managed 1:40.9 avg in a one hour time trial.

Nothing surprising about this.

Just about as you would expect: 2K + 9.

For the best lightweights, the rule of thumb is:

"Double to d, add 3"

ranger

[TabbRows]

So now the question of sub-6's comes up!

Can Henrik break 6 before he succumbs to Eskild's fate of dwindling times and advancing age?

As far as Eskild's times when he reaches my age, I doubt if I, Rupp or Ranger will still be reading these boards to find out. Most likely we'll be trying to see if we can catch Joe Burk! RPI!

[ancho]

My guess is that his stroking power will stay just about the same but that he'll lose about 3 spm a decade.

So it goes.

Eskild is now 35.

If so...

Eskild will row 6:09 at age 45, at 36 spm;

6:09 at age 55, at 33 spm;

6:09 at age 65, at 30 spm;

6:09 at age 75, at 27 spm;

6:09 at age 85, at 24 spm;

6:09 at age 95, at 21 spm!

I'm very impressed by this!

In fact, this will prove that rowers can get stronger as they age!

John, once again I'm speechless about your clairvoyance!