Cross Team Challenge - Discussion Thread

[MPx]

No, nothing exclusive to the Skierg Susan, its just a straight forward 1k TT. Most of us will be doing it on the Rowerg as usual. Its the month of the 1k Skierg sprints with C2 so the Skierg people can count it in two comps - but for the rest of us just a normal CTC. Nevertheless, I suspect there's the hope of a bit more recruitment to Skierging as a by product - hence Rod's suggestion of creating a second CTC presence so that you can submit a score for both erg types.

[joe80]

SPU have now headed the leaderboard for the sixth consecutive month. Congratulations!

The Diamonds produced 81 boats for the third time this season. Great to see the consistent level of participation.

The Gee Crew have the February challenge.

Future Challengers:

December - Sub7
January - Red Line Rowers
February - Gee Crew

[Two Pudding Kid]

Thanks Mike - I am planning to do a 1k ergo on 16/17 Nov so that will be really convenient.

[EeBeeGeeBee]

When recording a time/result for the November 1k CTC (or any other CTC, for that matter), are there restrictions on which type of rowers are permitted, e.g. static as opposed to dynamic or static-on-slides? Or are all types and variants of Ergs permitted?

Thanks in advance

[Sakly]

When recording a time/result for the November 1k CTC (or any other CTC, for that matter), are there restrictions on which type of rowers are permitted, e.g. static as opposed to dynamic or static-on-slides? Or are all types and variants of Ergs permitted?

Thanks in advance

Only static, no slides or dynamic.

[Rod]

When recording a time/result for the November 1k CTC (or any other CTC, for that matter), are there restrictions on which type of rowers are permitted, e.g. static as opposed to dynamic or static-on-slides? Or are all types and variants of Ergs permitted?

Thanks in advance

Only static, no slides or dynamic.

No Slides but Dynamic is allowed so just Static or Dyno.

The rules are on the Inside Indoor Site, just scroll down and you will see them.

https://insideindoor.com/ctc-challenge/

[Sakly]

When recording a time/result for the November 1k CTC (or any other CTC, for that matter), are there restrictions on which type of rowers are permitted, e.g. static as opposed to dynamic or static-on-slides? Or are all types and variants of Ergs permitted?

Thanks in advance

Only static, no slides or dynamic.

No Slides but Dynamic is allowed so just Static or Dyno.

The rules are on the Inside Indoor Site, just scroll down and you will see them.

https://insideindoor.com/ctc-challenge/

Sorry for giving wrong Infos, I checked again and got aware of dynos are not excluded.
Thanks for correcting that and informing me!

[joe80]

There's a poll, conducted by Casey on facebook, on whether dynamics should continue to be allowed in the CTC. Currently, the voting is close. Previous votes have used the Google Poll so that members of this forum who do not wish to be on facebook could express their view. This poll effectively disenfranchises such members. This does not seem fair to me.

If there are members of this forum but not facebook who would like to vote, I am happy to inform Casey of their opinion. Three options are available:

Yes, dynamics should be allowed,

No, dynamics should not be allowed

Separate CTC for dynamics

If you wish to vote, please state your opinion on this thread so that it's open to scrutiny.. Voting concludes at 8pm November 17.

[MPx]

Thanks Joe. My vote is "no" to Dynamics.

I'm not bothered if there's a "Dynamics team" like there is for the Skiergs - and I'm all for factions having their own CTC if there's the critical mass necessary to make it work. But to me sport in general is about the best athletes not the best kit. This all gets a bit mixed up these days in many sports (eg cycling) but I think works best when the kit is as comparable as poss. Despite some claiming its just an erg measuring watts...I've heard arguments about how it requires a better stroke to perform well on a Dynamic, how its easier to rate up and sprint, and various other facets which are effectively differences. This is borne out by those who maintain PBs on each type and are clearly faster on one than the other. If its different, then its a different sport and no more comparable than Water Rower results in my view.

[Dangerscouse]

Thanks Joe. My vote is "no" to Dynamics.

I'm not bothered if there's a "Dynamics team" like there is for the Skiergs - and I'm all for factions having their own CTC if there's the critical mass necessary to make it work. But to me sport in general is about the best athletes not the best kit. This all gets a bit mixed up these days in many sports (eg cycling) but I think works best when the kit is as comparable as poss. Despite some claiming its just an erg measuring watts...I've heard arguments about how it requires a better stroke to perform well on a Dynamic, how its easier to rate up and sprint, and various other facets which are effectively differences. This is borne out by those who maintain PBs on each type and are clearly faster on one than the other. If its different, then its a different sport and no more comparable than Water Rower results in my view.

Agreed and also, thanks Joe

[iain]

While I would personally allow slides or dynamics, I don't think it is right to disenfrachise the former and not the latter when the differences are similar. I would also be in favour of allowing a "dynamics team".

[joe80]

While I would personally allow slides or dynamics, I don't think it is right to disenfrachise the former and not the latter when the differences are similar. I would also be in favour of allowing a "dynamics team".

Hi Iain, I'm not clear which of the three options you are choosing, if any. Like many polls, individual preferences get submerged by the stark options.

[Sakly]

While I would personally allow slides or dynamics, I don't think it is right to disenfrachise the former and not the latter when the differences are similar. I would also be in favour of allowing a "dynamics team".

Hi Iain, I'm not clear which of the three options you are choosing, if any. Like many polls, individual preferences get submerged by the stark options.

For me that sounds like "Separate CTC for dynamics" and I agree to that, like it's for skierg.
The poll on FB did not contain that option initially.

[iain]

While I would personally allow slides or dynamics, I don't think it is right to disenfrachise the former and not the latter when the differences are similar. I would also be in favour of allowing a "dynamics team".

Hi Iain, I'm not clear which of the three options you are choosing, if any. Like many polls, individual preferences get submerged by the stark options.

For me that sounds like "Separate CTC for dynamics" and I agree to that, like it's for skierg.
The poll on FB did not contain that option initially.

That is correct, thanks for passing this on.

[joe80]

For me that sounds like "Separate CTC for dynamics" and I agree to that, like it's for skierg.

Yes, the wording of the added option was not clear on facebook. Casey has clarified that it's a vote for a skierg type team, where all dynamic users are in the same team.

For information, at this moment, with 352 votes cast on facebook, 53% are in favour of allowing dynamics, 42% opposed and 5% opting for a dynamics specific team.