osteoporosis

[Sasha]

The adult answer would be yes, of course. But he keeps pinning the KICK ME sign to his back and, well ...

Word ...

[JohnBove]

Word ...

If I understand this --

... I succumb to the invitation.

[Ducatista]

Childhood infections eg, measles, chicken pox, whooping cough, etc, all serve a beneficial purpose, and if correctly treated, will result in an improvement in the child's health.

Oh, Ian, you misguided little man. If only my Aunt Rose, Uncle Damon, and Uncle Carl, all of whom contracted poliomyelitis as children in the 1920s, were still alive to hear you say that. They'd fall right out of their wheelchairs laughing.

[johnlvs2run]

[JohnBove]

Where to begin? I guess with thanks for posting Ian Williams’s full “About Me,” confirming that he gives no indication of having any education.

You should--and clearly don’t--know that the snippets you posted, absent of context, are worthless. There’s no way of assessing their value or their relevance. To cite one example, you cite JAMA (I suspect you cite Ian Williams citing JAMA) to the effect that: 90% of obstetricians and 66% of pediatricians refused to take the rubella vaccine.

What is one to do with this? 90% of obstetricians worldwide? In the US? In Cherokee County? And for what reasons? Contamination issues? Social pressures from people like you? Who knows? In isolation, the citation is meaningless. Further, You can’t really cite JAMA. It’s a journal. It is certainly reputable, but who wrote the article and, again, what was the context?

You (or Ian) also cite the Lancet, which has no position whatever that suggests that immunization is ineffective, let alone counterproductive. And one must wonder (to be respectful) why you cite these journals, given that they’re mouthpieces of the quacks.

Here’s a quote from Paul Starr’s The Social Transformation of American Medicine:

“In recent years it has become the fashion to argue that the great drop in mortality in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries was due to changes in the standard of living or to general public health efforts. Typically, evidence is cited showing that reductions in mortality from specific diseases occurrred before effective prophylactics or therapies were in the hands of physicians. But this is to draw an exaggerated distinction between medicine and public health during this period and to assume that the effectiveness of medicine depended solely on the possession of ‘magic bullets.’ By providing more accurate diagnosis, identifying the sources of personal hygiene, medicine entered directly into the improved effectiveness of public health. In two diseases, diphtheria and tetanus, the introduction of antitoxins was followed by a rapid decline in mortality. In a third, typhoid, the introduction of a vaccine accounted significantly for the fall in mortality. Diphtheria and typhoid were two of the major causes of death whose declines figured in the general rise of life expectancy in this period.

“In any event the impact on social behavior of vaccines and serums was not proportionate to their epidemiological effects. Diphtheria and tetanus, like rabies, were dreaded diseases with high case fatality rates, and medical intervention in these instances was dramatically effective. Diphtheria antitoxin reduced the case fatality rate from 50 to 31 percent.”

[johnlvs2run]

[Sasha]

I find myself wondering when we will see challenges to the germ theory of disease and the value of handwashing.

[johnlvs2run]

Ian Sinclair.

[JohnBove]

Why some people actually prefer, having surgeries and being in wheelchairs, is quite interesting.

I take this as a comment about Ducatista's aunt and uncles having contracted polio. As such, you layer stupidty with repugnance.

My mother, by the way, also contracted polio. You jackass.

[johnlvs2run]

[Ducatista]

Thank you, JohnBove. JR's post was awfully tacky, more so now that he's being coy about it.

I don't remember any surgeries, but I must confess I dug the wheelchairs. For entertainment value, they couldn't be beat. As a little girl I'd race around the house in my aunt's chair while she sat at the *** DELETE - SPAM *** table peeling apples for pie. How cozy is that? If I got up enough speed and then threw on one of the brakes, I could whip a decent U-ie.

[JohnBove]

Thank you, JohnBove. JR's post was awfully tacky, more so now that he's being coy about it.

"Coy" is kind, as is "tacky." The post was crude, suggesting your relatives chose polio. How else is one to take it? And out of what: ignorance?

In any case, you're welcome.

[johnlvs2run]

Here's a link about the medicating of America, often having the reverse affect of causing uncontrollable violence.

http://www.holisticjunction.com/display ... fm?ID=3526

Scary stuff right out of "1984" by George Orwell.

[johnlvs2run]

I am not being coy about anything.

I have come right out and said that health is most important.

[dutchcan]

I have come right out and said that health is more important than quacks.

I'm having a Tom Cruise moment here......