osteoporosis

[johnlvs2run]

Here's a food ash chart from link #2 above:

http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash.htm

Click the chart with "foods you can eat freely", then click "printable version" to print it.

[johnlvs2run]

Do you think Dr. McGowan's a bastard, by association?

I don't know who that is... never heard of her/him.

I did check the NIH site you mentioned though, and most of their advice has to do with drugs, which they have long lists of, and advice to see medical quacks etc. Interesting is this medical advice that is rampart on their web sites:

"Medications that cause bone loss: The long-term use of ... medications prescribed for a wide range of diseases ... can lead to a loss of bone density and fractures ... It is important to discuss the use of these drugs with your physician and not to stop or change your medication dose on your own."

[Ducatista]

I don't know who that is... never heard of her/him.

Ah. That was covered in this response to one of your posts. Be a dear and read it, would you? And here's a bonus quote from the NIH that should warm your cockles. It pooh-poohs the idea that drugs are the answer for osteoporosis—even calls that notion a myth:

Myth: We have highly effective drugs to prevent and treat osteoporosis.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved several medications for the prevention or treatment of osteoporosis. However, Dr. McGowan cautions, "None of these can completely stop fractures and may not be suitable for taking the rest of your life since we don’t yet know what their long-term effects are."

So whad'ya think, John? Is McGowan an MD dispensing *gasp* sound medical advice? Or maybe she's a double-agent, secretly hitting for the Mother Jones team. Or—this is a good one—maybe her party line is a clever application of reverse psychology, designed to get us to eat badly, stay sedentary, and gulp 'ceuticals.

[johnlvs2run]

[Ducatista]

By the way, ladies, I reckon this is the kinder, gentler neighborhood of the forum. But Rupp, who's more fun than a barrel of glue-sniffing monkeys if you're in the mood, has strayed into my territory.

My mom, who ate a phenomenally well-balanced and minimally processed diet , was healthy as a horse for most of her 83 years, and was an avid swimmer for all but the very end of her life, suffered a broken hip at age 65 and left this world many inches shorter (seven, I believe?) than she was at her tallest. Osteoporosis really did a number on her.

That wouldn't worry me overmuch, since I watch my calcium intake, and as a pedestrian commuter I get plenty of weight-bearing exercise. But I just learned that the spectre of osteoporosis will eventually deprive me of my beloved Depo-Provera. Bloody hell.

[JohnBove]

From John Rupp:

Here's a food ash chart from link #2 above:

http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash.htm

Click the chart with "foods you can eat freely", then click "printable version" to print it.

The following is taken from the disclaimer of the commercial health food website Mr. Rupp above provided a link to and uses as one of his sources of medical information:

"SUPPLEMENTS PRODUCT DISCLAIMER
Because many of our products are natural food supplements, the statements about the products have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This independent distributor does not engage directly or indirectly in diagnosing, dispensing medical advice, or prescribing the use of any of our products as a treatment for disease or sickness. One should always consult a primary care physician/health practitioner of choice when considering supplementation for health purposes, especially when undergoing treatment for an existing condition. ...

"NOTICE
The information on this website is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not an attempt by the writers or publisher to diagnose or prescribe, nor should it be construed to be such. Readers are hereby encouraged to consult with a licensed health care professional concerning the information presented, which has been received from sources deemed reliable, but no guarantees, expressed or implied, can be made regarding the accuracy of same. Therefore, readers are also encouraged to verify for themselves and to their own satisfaction the accuracy of all reports, recommendations, conclusions, comments, opinions, or anything else published herein before making any kind of decisions based upon what they have read. If you have a medical condition, please consult your medical practitioner."

Emphasis mine, for the edification of Mr. Rupp.

[johnlvs2run]

The insertions you quoted are required by medical laws. But none of the charts and information on the web pages said anything at all about going to see any medicals. It is not in the text, but only in the disclaimers.

[johnlvs2run]

"All food digested in our bodies metabolizes, or burns, down to an ash residue. This ash residue can be neutral, acidic, or alkaline, depending mostly on the mineral content of the original food. For example, potassium, calcium, magnesium, sodium, zinc, silver, copper, and iron form basic ash; sulphur, phosphorus, chlorine, and iodine leave acid ash. Most elements are alkaline."

Food ash charts:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash.htm

Foods you can eat freely:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash1.htm
Printable version:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/printable_p ... odash1.htm

Foods you can eat sparingly:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash2.htm
Printable version:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/printable_p ... odash2.htm

Foods you should never eat!
http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash3.htm
Printable version:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/printable_p ... odash3.htm

[johnlvs2run]

"Fortunately for us, it is easy to categorize which foods leave which kind of ash.

"In general, animal foods - meat, eggs, dairy - processed and refined foods, yeast products, fermented foods, grains, artificial sweeteners, fruit, and sugars are acidifying, as are alcohol, coffee, chocolate, black tea, and sodas.

"Vegetables, on the other hand, are alkalizing. That includes a few that are technically fruits: avocado, tomato, and bell peppers. A few non sweet citrus fruits are also basic in the body, as are sprouted seeds, nuts, and grains. Grains are acidifying, though a few (millet, buckwheat, and spelt) are only very mildly so. Raw foods are more alkalizing, while cooked food is more acidifying.

"To maintain a balanced pH in your blood and tissues, your diet should consist of at least 70 to 80 percent basic foods - that is, no more than 20 to 30 percent acidifying foods (and at least half of that 70 to 80 percent should be raw)

"The more alkaline your diet, the more rapid your improvement will be.

"Unlike the familiar "food pyramid," which has an overall acidic effect, this program will bring you back to basic."

[johnlvs2run]

"These food "ash" pH charts provide some insight into which foods are alkaline and which are acid. They have been broken down into three categories: foods that you can eat freely, foods that you can eat sparingly, and foods you should never eat.

"Each food is assigned a number which represents it's approximate relative potential of acidity (-) or alkalinity (+) present in one ouce of food. The higher the number, the better it is for you to eat. These charts come in handy when trying to decide if certain foods are bad to eat.

"And remember, some foods are listed on the "Foods You Should Never Eat" chart because they contain yeast - the other thing we are trying to avoid."

[JohnBove]

You will find the valuable information on the web pages attached to that link that I posted ...

Valuable information that your impeachable source won't even vouchsafe as accurate.

That said, I'm going to leave these women be and trust they have the good sense to ignore your ill-considered suggestions.

[johnlvs2run]

[johnlvs2run]

[whp4]

Foods you can eat freely:
http://www.snyderhealth.com/foodash1.htm

Ah, I see you can grow up to be a world-class erger like John (as measured by the PERathlon) by grazing on your Chia Pet as often as you like

How fortunate we are to have him as a contributor - he even takes time from his movie career to share his wisdom!
http://www.grapheine.com/classiktv/clas ... hp?id=9491

[whp4]

However women in general ... have greater survival instincts, live longer ...

On this point, John and I are in total agreement! http://www.gophergas.com/funstuff/womenlivelonger2.htm

#2 is my favorite!