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Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 23rd, 2024, 5:18 pm
by Dave Neve
Hello

I don't want to upset anyone as I realize I'm on the Concept2 forum but why would anyone buy a Concept2 BikeErg rather than some sort of Assault bike with handles that move???

What I like about Concept 2 machines like the rower and ski erg is that they train multiple muscles but the Bike Erg breaks away from this concept. Why?

As a gym goer, I love Assault bikes as I can concentrate on my legs, my back (lats) or my pecs (chest) depending on what I want to do on a particular day.

I just don't get why Concept2 chose a bike with fixed handlebars rather than an Assault bike design.

I'm also curious to know if you can peddle backwards (with resistance) on a Concept 2 BikeErg as I've never had access to one.

Thanks in advance for your insights.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 23rd, 2024, 7:33 pm
by gvcormac
I hate devices that involve artificial arm motions. That includes ellipticals and the various air bikes.

Beyond that, the Concept 2 feels like a bike. It has inertia and wind resistance that resemble a road bike. It freewheels like a bike.

Last, I ride 30+ minutes every morning while I drink coffee and read my email and this forum and other social media. I can't do that on my rower or ski erg or elliptical, and I couldn't on an air bike.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 25th, 2024, 12:14 pm
by jamesg
Boats and bikes are real things for real sports, where technique may well be critical, and C2 tries to mimic them. There's no point in trying to mimic something that doesn't exist.

The other main point is that the machines must be able to let us know just what we've done, in terms of kWh delivered or any other unit of Work, and how that Work relates to what we might be able to do on the real thing: water or road.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 25th, 2024, 2:53 pm
by gvcormac
jamesg wrote:
September 25th, 2024, 12:14 pm

The other main point is that the machines must be able to let us know just what we've done, in terms of kWh delivered or any other unit of Work, and how that Work relates to what we might be able to do on the real thing: water or road.
I agree 100% that you need a calibrated erg to track and motivate progress. I'm less convinced that you need to map that to outdoor activity. If my elliptical had some sort of erg, that would give me more incentive to use it. In fact, I don't mind it as an arms-only exerciser. But all it gives me is completely fictional "distance" and "calories" numbers. I can sort of guess at actual watts by comparing my heart rate to what I get on the bikerg or skierg or rowerg, and it isn't close to what the elliptical reports.

Using this approach I can see differences among the ergs. For me, 2:00 pace on the bikeerg is HR-equivalent to about 2:05 on the rower and 2:15 (maybe 2:20) on the skierg.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 26th, 2024, 8:32 am
by Dutch
I bought a concept 2 bike as I wanted an indoor bike that does what a bike does, more or less for me anyway.
I did look at other brands briefly but having had a C2 rower for 12 yrs and having used the equipment for probably about 24 yrs, I was sure I was getting something for life.
As for the Assault bike, I equate them more with crossfit, plus they are noisy. Dont think the household would thank me at 7 am on a Sat morning lol. So it did not really fit needs.
More than happy with c2 bike and one day I will own a ski machine maybe, but not just yet.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: September 28th, 2024, 10:42 am
by SwindonRower
The Bikeerg is nice for when you just want to do a leisurely workout. The Assault bike and its variants are really designed for HIIT workouts.
I can watch a video on my iPad and just spin for 30 mins or longer. It’s a nice change from the rower and Skierg.
I do love the assault bikes, they are absolutely brutal when you push hard on them, a Rogue Echo is on my wish list.
If C2 ever decided to make an assault style bike I would get one instantly.

Re: Concept2 Bike Erg v Assault bikes

Posted: December 25th, 2024, 3:00 pm
by Dreadnought
A better question is why would any serious cyclist want to use an assault bike?

Optimal positioning is necessary for a good cycling workout, and those lever arms only get in the way and prevent correct positioning, resulting in a very awkward motion.