I tend to not loose much weight rowing either. I have found lowering the number on the damper and increasing stroke rate makes it more aerobic. I also lower my fat intake and increase my protein, not exactly a zone diet, just in proportion to my own base. On exercise alone, it takes about 50,000 meters to loose a pound. Diet changes are needed to increase this number. Also, your body gets use to a certain exercise. as you start rowing, you will lose weight as a newbie. As your body gets use to it, it will not use as much energy. Changing up is the key to make your body work harder.
Jane
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weight loss
Last edited by Calamity on January 20th, 2008, 2:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
weight loss
Many thx for the wealth of information on weight loss ... and my lack thereof! Your suggestions and logic are great. I'm working on efficiency and increased distance, and am considering what "revving up my workout" might look like. I did a 1K sprint on the heels of a 10k yesterday which, in hindsight, was a tad beyond reasonable revving for me! Based on the heart rate insights, I'll go shopping at the C2 site for a monitor.
The myfooddiary.com site looks sensible. I suppose it is time to admit that calorie intake MAY have something to do with not needing a seat pad!
The myfooddiary.com site looks sensible. I suppose it is time to admit that calorie intake MAY have something to do with not needing a seat pad!
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thomaspinckney
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If you have been rowing and not losing weight, as others say - you are most likely gaining muscle. Muscle weighs more than fat. Thus, although the scale may not indicate it, you have most likely lost fat and gained muscle. That is the way to lose weight. Lose weight too quickly and a significant amount of your weight will be muscle tissue.
Prior to Thanksgiving (actually the before) I had some blood tests that indicated that things were not good. High chloresterol, high glucose levels, triglicerides, etc., high BP. My doctor sent me to a specialist (indoctrine) specializing in diabetes (my glucose levels were at 154 -normal is no higher than 99). He told me to limit my calories, exercise and I now get to "stick myself" with a needle to check my glucose levels. I took this VERY seriously and started exercising and eating properly THAT DAY!
As of this morning I have lost 23 pounds since mid-November and still have a ways to go. My program has been as follows:
1. limit my calories to less than 2000 per day. I am allowed 205 grams of carbs per day and watch my fat intake.
2. I have been lifting weights. This makes muscle tissue. Musle tissue burns more fat (at rest). So with the additional calories burned from lifting (not that many, but they do add up) & with the additional calories burned at rest, the calories burned does add up over time.
3. I started out rowing 5,000 meters a day in about 30 minutes. I did not see much weight loss at all. However, it certainly made me stronger (muscle build up), so I assume I lost some fat and gained muscle.
4. I then started rowing about 45 minutes per day. The additional time seemed to trigger weight loss with about a pound or two per week coming off.
5. Challenge: as the participants started rowing more and more, I decided to set my goal to at least be in the top ten. First it was 200,000 meters. As others rowed more and more, I upped my goal to 300 ,000, then 400,000, 500,000 & now 600,000 meters for the challenge.
6. I am now spending about 2 1/2 hours a day on the erg at a slow pace. Usually about 2:30 to 3:00 per 500 meters. Presently, I rowing about 23,000 meters a day.
This has resulted in a 2-3 pound weight loss per week. I have discovered that rowing longer (45+ minutes) a couple of times of day seems to up my metabolism. At the same time, I am eating 5-6 times per day (small meals that equal the same amount of calories/carbs as eating three times a day). You burn more calories digesting your food when you eat more times per day but with the same amount of calories.
As mentioned, I have lost 23 pounds since pre-Thanksgiving. I started out as a fat boy (donut cop) a while back. My total weight loss has been 51 pounds. I'm shooting for 37 pounds more.
Why am I doing this? My life depends on it and I owe to myself and family to take care of it.
When the challenge is over, I plan on cross-training (still plenty of aerobic activity) to cut back on the boardom. Too much of anything gets old.
FYI: my blood levels are normalizing as is my BP. The doctors all agree that the exercise is the best thing I can do along with my new diet. I have never starved one day since starting.
Prior to Thanksgiving (actually the before) I had some blood tests that indicated that things were not good. High chloresterol, high glucose levels, triglicerides, etc., high BP. My doctor sent me to a specialist (indoctrine) specializing in diabetes (my glucose levels were at 154 -normal is no higher than 99). He told me to limit my calories, exercise and I now get to "stick myself" with a needle to check my glucose levels. I took this VERY seriously and started exercising and eating properly THAT DAY!
As of this morning I have lost 23 pounds since mid-November and still have a ways to go. My program has been as follows:
1. limit my calories to less than 2000 per day. I am allowed 205 grams of carbs per day and watch my fat intake.
2. I have been lifting weights. This makes muscle tissue. Musle tissue burns more fat (at rest). So with the additional calories burned from lifting (not that many, but they do add up) & with the additional calories burned at rest, the calories burned does add up over time.
3. I started out rowing 5,000 meters a day in about 30 minutes. I did not see much weight loss at all. However, it certainly made me stronger (muscle build up), so I assume I lost some fat and gained muscle.
4. I then started rowing about 45 minutes per day. The additional time seemed to trigger weight loss with about a pound or two per week coming off.
5. Challenge: as the participants started rowing more and more, I decided to set my goal to at least be in the top ten. First it was 200,000 meters. As others rowed more and more, I upped my goal to 300 ,000, then 400,000, 500,000 & now 600,000 meters for the challenge.
6. I am now spending about 2 1/2 hours a day on the erg at a slow pace. Usually about 2:30 to 3:00 per 500 meters. Presently, I rowing about 23,000 meters a day.
This has resulted in a 2-3 pound weight loss per week. I have discovered that rowing longer (45+ minutes) a couple of times of day seems to up my metabolism. At the same time, I am eating 5-6 times per day (small meals that equal the same amount of calories/carbs as eating three times a day). You burn more calories digesting your food when you eat more times per day but with the same amount of calories.
As mentioned, I have lost 23 pounds since pre-Thanksgiving. I started out as a fat boy (donut cop) a while back. My total weight loss has been 51 pounds. I'm shooting for 37 pounds more.
Why am I doing this? My life depends on it and I owe to myself and family to take care of it.
When the challenge is over, I plan on cross-training (still plenty of aerobic activity) to cut back on the boardom. Too much of anything gets old.
FYI: my blood levels are normalizing as is my BP. The doctors all agree that the exercise is the best thing I can do along with my new diet. I have never starved one day since starting.
Re: weight loss
[quote="just27"] Based on the heart rate insights, I'll go shopping at the C2 site for a monitor.
I have the Concept2 monitor and it is extremely helpful.
PJM
I have the Concept2 monitor and it is extremely helpful.
PJM
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Full moon
January 22 is the full moon. Anyone have some good ideas of a special row that day??
There seems to be another team challenge in March. I can not tell if this is for the same team as we have not or something else. Perhaps someone with more virtual team experience might know how the challenge in march works.
There seems to be another team challenge in March. I can not tell if this is for the same team as we have not or something else. Perhaps someone with more virtual team experience might know how the challenge in march works.
Exercise in a nutshell
In reference to good eating habits there may be no better advice than that contained in Michael Pollan's In Defense of Food: "Eat Food. Not too much. Mostly vegetables."
An analogous 7-word summary to exercise might be: "Exercise daily. Don't overdo it. Mostly outside."
An analogous 7-word summary to exercise might be: "Exercise daily. Don't overdo it. Mostly outside."
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Kristine Strasburger
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Barbara,
On the shin pain, my guess is that it is from the running, as I do both, and running, not rowing makes my shin muscles sore. I would ice them down for 5 minutes after every run, and even after every row until the pain goes away. If the pain is being caused by inflammation, this should help. Ice them a couple times a day if you can, once right after working out and once before/in bed. Use a cloth or some other cover between your skin and the ice. It also might not be a bad idea to not do any excercise at all on your off-running day. Your muscles might simply need a day of rest as they repair.
Tom,
Only 2000 calories a day with all the rowing you are doing? No wonder you are shedding pounds. Good for you on your multi-pronged approach to your weight loss. You are doing all the right things, and are seeing the results of that. Congratulations on your great progress!
Calamity,
Full-Moon on the 22nd? Well, I can think of two unique rows we can try on that day...
Row 22,000 meters (even if it takes you all day and multiple sessions)
Row in the buff (au natural except maybe for gloves) to get that "Full Moon" effect
JUST KIDDING!
We aren't called the LUNA-TICS for nothing!
I don't think that this same team room will be around after the JVC. I am going to try to start a year-round team room somewhere else on the forum so we can keep on encouraging one another. It would be kind of a bummer to just stop all this great discourse at the end of the month.
As for the other challenges, any time there is a virtual team challenge, I will enter this team in it. The team roster stays intact from one challenge to the next. People can continue to join the challenge team as well as the year-round team. People can also leave the team whenever they want.
So you will not have to do anything in the future to be included in the team challenges. I will email you a reminder that you are on the team and the challenge details, and your meters will automatically be logged on this team unless you leave the team.
On the shin pain, my guess is that it is from the running, as I do both, and running, not rowing makes my shin muscles sore. I would ice them down for 5 minutes after every run, and even after every row until the pain goes away. If the pain is being caused by inflammation, this should help. Ice them a couple times a day if you can, once right after working out and once before/in bed. Use a cloth or some other cover between your skin and the ice. It also might not be a bad idea to not do any excercise at all on your off-running day. Your muscles might simply need a day of rest as they repair.
Tom,
Only 2000 calories a day with all the rowing you are doing? No wonder you are shedding pounds. Good for you on your multi-pronged approach to your weight loss. You are doing all the right things, and are seeing the results of that. Congratulations on your great progress!
Calamity,
Full-Moon on the 22nd? Well, I can think of two unique rows we can try on that day...
Row 22,000 meters (even if it takes you all day and multiple sessions)
Row in the buff (au natural except maybe for gloves) to get that "Full Moon" effect
JUST KIDDING!
We aren't called the LUNA-TICS for nothing!
I don't think that this same team room will be around after the JVC. I am going to try to start a year-round team room somewhere else on the forum so we can keep on encouraging one another. It would be kind of a bummer to just stop all this great discourse at the end of the month.
As for the other challenges, any time there is a virtual team challenge, I will enter this team in it. The team roster stays intact from one challenge to the next. People can continue to join the challenge team as well as the year-round team. People can also leave the team whenever they want.
So you will not have to do anything in the future to be included in the team challenges. I will email you a reminder that you are on the team and the challenge details, and your meters will automatically be logged on this team unless you leave the team.
☆~Kristine~☆
Good ideas Tom
Great ideas Tom.
I wasn't losing when I was doing 5000 m / day. I've upped it to 7-8K and am starting to see results.
I'm doing WW and note that at race pace, rowing = 5 points for 30 min; 6 pts for 40 min. I eat the extra points and do better than even when I stick with my basic points and don't exercise.
Gina
I wasn't losing when I was doing 5000 m / day. I've upped it to 7-8K and am starting to see results.
I'm doing WW and note that at race pace, rowing = 5 points for 30 min; 6 pts for 40 min. I eat the extra points and do better than even when I stick with my basic points and don't exercise.
Gina
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kgallagher
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No question is stupid
Posted: Jan 19, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject:
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I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
Welcome to the world of rowing! Be careful, it's addictive. I've been rowing for over 20 years now. There is a lot of lingo out there that you will need to become aware of. Don't ever hesitate to ask. This is how we learn. An "erg" is short for ergometer. The Concept-2 ergometer is the prefered rowing machine used by competetive rowers. When people refer to the "erg" they refer to the lovely machine they use to try and make it to the moon (or whatever there destination is). Hope this helps.
Karyn
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I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
Welcome to the world of rowing! Be careful, it's addictive. I've been rowing for over 20 years now. There is a lot of lingo out there that you will need to become aware of. Don't ever hesitate to ask. This is how we learn. An "erg" is short for ergometer. The Concept-2 ergometer is the prefered rowing machine used by competetive rowers. When people refer to the "erg" they refer to the lovely machine they use to try and make it to the moon (or whatever there destination is). Hope this helps.
Karyn
Thanks for this toothdoc. I am going to get my own some day. I cannot afford $1500 at the moment as we are in the process of building our dream home in the country so all money extra is set aside for that. When that project is complete I will definitely be setting aside $$ for a rower of my very own.Toothdoc wrote:Exercise machine, equipped with an apparatus for measuring the work performed by exercisingkalmjorg wrote:I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
Indoor rower, called an ergometer by rowers
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FYI:
An erg is the unit of energy and mechanical work in the centimetre-gram-second (CGS) system of units, symbol "erg". Its name is derived from the Greek word meaning "work".
The erg is a small unit, equal to a force of one dyne exerted for a distance of one centimeter. In the CGS base units, it is equal to one gram centimeter-squared per second squared (g·cm²/s²). It is thus equal to 1 × 10−7 joules or 0.1 microjoule (µJ) in SI units.
1 erg = 10−7 joule
1 joule = 107 erg
1 dyn cm = 1 erg.
From Greek ergon work [OED]
LJ
Re: No question is stupid
Thank you for the info. You are right. I am certainly a person who enjoys learning. My rowing has to all be done at work right now as I have no money to set aside for that much output. You are also right that it is very addictive. I am rowing nearly 12000m a day now and still I would like to be able to do more. Really the only thing stopping me is that I have to work for a living (my boss tends to frown on my rowing during working hourskgallagher wrote:Posted: Jan 19, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject:
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I know this may sound stupid but I've only been doing this since 9/07. What on earth is erg? I am just curious as everyone else seems to know what you all are referring to.
Welcome to the world of rowing! Be careful, it's addictive. I've been rowing for over 20 years now. There is a lot of lingo out there that you will need to become aware of. Don't ever hesitate to ask. This is how we learn. An "erg" is short for ergometer. The Concept-2 ergometer is the prefered rowing machine used by competetive rowers. When people refer to the "erg" they refer to the lovely machine they use to try and make it to the moon (or whatever there destination is). Hope this helps.
Karyn
)Oh well. At least I have access to a rower.LJ
Full Moon on the 22nd
"Full-Moon on the 22nd? Well, I can think of two unique rows we can try on that day...
Row 22,000 meters (even if it takes you all day and multiple sessions)
Row in the buff (au natural except maybe for gloves) to get that "Full Moon" effect"
Hmm. My discretionary time is sadly limited tomorrow (the 22nd) but I could commit to 22 determined rowing minutes and a quick howl at the moon before I turn in! (I'll decide about the gloves, tomorrow.)
Row 22,000 meters (even if it takes you all day and multiple sessions)
Row in the buff (au natural except maybe for gloves) to get that "Full Moon" effect"
Hmm. My discretionary time is sadly limited tomorrow (the 22nd) but I could commit to 22 determined rowing minutes and a quick howl at the moon before I turn in! (I'll decide about the gloves, tomorrow.)