Muscle strain and rowing

General discussions about getting and staying fit that don't relate directly to your indoor rower
JaapvanE
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Re: Muscle strain and rowing

Post by JaapvanE » June 7th, 2022, 1:14 am

Slidewinder wrote:
June 6th, 2022, 8:29 am
To gvcormac: It is not hyperbole if it is true, and it is true that the stock C2 handle is a bio-mechanical abomination. The many, many reports of wrist, elbow, and shoulder injuries, here and elsewhere, is proof of that.
Sorry,

But you assume that there is a relation between injury and handle design, without any medical journal papers to back it up, and call it proof. Numbers of injuries without any causation proven in medical journals are just your assumption. It is not proof, it is just noise injected into a conversation.

You additionally claim there is an alternative where there isn't: your solution isn't commercially available and designs aren't open sourced. So your key point here either is to randomly bash C2 or to try sell vapourware. You claim that it remedies these problems, again without any scientific backing.

To be honest, either you back your claims up with real evidence and start selling the solution, or stop injecting yourself in discussions that have significant importance to them as they have to deal with real injuries.

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Re: Muscle strain and rowing

Post by Dangerscouse » June 7th, 2022, 3:42 am

JaapvanE wrote:
June 7th, 2022, 1:14 am
Slidewinder wrote:
June 6th, 2022, 8:29 am
But you assume that there is a relation between injury and handle design, without any medical journal papers to back it up, and call it proof. Numbers of injuries without any causation proven in medical journals are just your assumption. It is not proof, it is just noise injected into a conversation.
FWIW, I've only ever suffered from slightly sore elbows, but nothing bad enough to make me stop, or seek treatment, and I've certainly done enough metres to really test it out
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Re: Muscle strain and rowing

Post by JaapvanE » June 7th, 2022, 5:47 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
June 7th, 2022, 3:42 am
FWIW, I've only ever suffered from slightly sore elbows, but nothing bad enough to make me stop, or seek treatment, and I've certainly done enough metres to really test it out
I did experience issues on my NordicTrack but they maintain a huge DF (I later measured that damper 10 = 450!) and I was "exploding at the catch" at DF250 (Damper 4) which put a lot of stress on my elbows. But in essence, that is due to bad technique, not the handle itself. On the NordicTrack I suffered from wrist issues as well, which was remedied by the better C2 handle.

C2's handle probably can be improved ergonomically, but to consider it a cause for many injuries is way too far in my book.

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Re: Muscle strain and rowing

Post by ampire » June 7th, 2022, 7:34 am

I'd just like a wider handle. A few years ago I tried making one out of oak dowel but it was too flexible and I didn't trust the U bolt to not tear out. Is the RP3 handle any wider?
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