Sharp & very specific butt pain

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Sharp & very specific butt pain

Post by Stonewaly » April 19th, 2007, 4:08 pm

Looked around the forum for someone w/ a similar problem, and haven't found anything matching this description. Hopefully someone's run into this before as I could use some advice!

Bought my Model D 10/06, and have been loving it ever since (~900K to date). I've done mostly interval training w/ the IP, and only began rowing for longer than 30min at a single stretch about 8 weeks ago, when I began doing 10Ks and the occasional 60min row. After a few of these longer rows, I developed an incredibly sharp pain in the butt area, but it's a weird pain (see below). There have been two episodes thus far. The first about 8 weeks ago, after which I saw the doctor due to its severity. Took it easy for 3 weeks thereafter, and only recently began rowing again. Rowed in shorter (<=20min) intervals until last night when I tried a 10K uninterrupted (at a very moderate pace), and the pain returned.

[Aside: A detailed description is below and I'd appreciate any guidance, but please note I've already seen a doctor about this issue. He did an exam, took x-rays of my whole lower back & mid section, and found nothing physically wrong.]

The pain seems to only occur when I initially exert or release pressure on the butt area. In other words, it hurts immensely for a couple of seconds when I first sit and then again when I release the pressure by standing up. However, walking around and sitting in one position feel completely normal. The only other time I the pain occurs (and also when it's at its worst extreme) is when there is pressure in that area of my body due to using the bathroom (happens during either manner of "business"). If left alone (i.e., no rowing) the pain lessens over a period of 4-5 days, and disappears entirely after about a week.

Sounds like a stress injury, right? I initially thought it was something w/ my tail bone, so bought an extra seat pad after the first episode. That didn't solve it. I then thought my technique might be faulty in a way that only causes problems on longer duration rows. However I've been very diligent about keeping proper form (unfortunately don't have a video recording device to prove it), and anyway wouldn't improper technique have hurt me after rowing several 15-20min intervals just as much as it would have rowing 45-60min at once? Next, the dreadful "kidney stones" idea passed through my head, but I'm relatively young and eat well (26, male, 6'3", 187lbs) and the doctor said that wasn't it either (**phew**). Plus, that kind of pain (as well as any due to a non-rowing genuine medical problem) wouldn't go away on it's own after a week's rest.

This pain is terrible, and I'd really like to figure out a way to avoid it as I've fallen in love with my C2 and can't bear the thought of having to stop using it! I figure there's got to be a solution, as thousands of people all over the world are rowing lengthy durations comfortably with few if any physical consequences (other than improved fitness). :wink: I'm open to anything (padded shorts, untraditional stretching, whatever).

Anyone ever have a similar problem or ideas about what to try next time I'm feeling better? THANKS!

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Post by tomhz » April 22nd, 2007, 4:51 am

Stonewaly,

A year ago I had the same problems as you after a FM. It dissapeared after a month of light training.
The problems are back for the second time now. It happened to me after training for a marathon and doing longer than half marathon training distances. I did my FM last week and I am planning to do a light training month now.
However, I am not sure wether we have the same problem. I wouldn't describe it as a sharp pain, but the rest of you description matches my own. For me it feels like a muscle problem and I profit from a sport massage.

Good luck,

Tom

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Post by MomofJBN » April 22nd, 2007, 2:15 pm

I don't know if this will help, but make sure you are sitting squarely on the tailbones rather than with the hips "tucked under." I've had issues when the hips are tucked under.
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Post by Alissa » April 22nd, 2007, 4:29 pm

MomofJBN wrote:I don't know if this will help, but make sure you are sitting squarely on the tailbones rather than with the hips "tucked under." I've had issues when the hips are tucked under.
I agree w/ Schenley that you don't want your pelvis "tucked under"...but would probably say that you want to be sitting on your "sitz bones" instead of your tailbone. If your tailbone touches the seat, you're probably tucking under...

Good luck!

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Post by bw1099 » April 22nd, 2007, 9:31 pm

Stonewaly,

Please describe more specifically where on your body the pain is occuring. The sitz bones? Tail bone? Right side? Left side? Both sides? Shooting down one leg? Shooting up your spine? etc... Be as specific as possible (although not necessary to scan your butt and draw arrows).

This might help someone with the same problem to recognize it.

bw

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Post by MomofJBN » April 23rd, 2007, 12:38 am

Thanks, Alissa. I did mean sitz-bones. Duh.
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Post by Stonewaly » April 23rd, 2007, 10:05 pm

bw1099 wrote:Stonewaly,

Please describe more specifically where on your body the pain is occuring. The sitz bones? Tail bone? Right side? Left side? Both sides? Shooting down one leg? Shooting up your spine? etc... Be as specific as possible (although not necessary to scan your butt and draw arrows).

This might help someone with the same problem to recognize it.

bw
Well, it's basically concentrated at the base of the tail bone (definitely not the sitz bones). Doesn't shoot up the spine at all or down a leg. Haha, I don't have a scanner so don't worry about me providing a visual detail. :wink:

In an attempt to be more specific (not sure if this will help), the involuntary reaction to the pain is to clench up, like I'm trying to "hold it in," so to speak. The pain comes in a steep wave, almost like a quick spasm or in reaction to one, though I hesitate to use that word because I'm fairly certain it's not a muscle problem.

It feels more like a severe bruise, where in various situations (as mentioned above; sitting/standing, effort in using the facilities, etc.) pressure is put on the region and the pain occurs, but vanishes when the pressure releases. Never had a bruise react this acutely though ...

@ Alissa & MomofJBN: Not altogether sure what you mean by having (or not) the pelvis "tucked under". I assume being "tucked under" correlates with curving your back as opposed to keeping it straight, the latter of which would force you to rest on the sitz as opposed to the tail bone. Perhaps my tail bone might be hitting the seat when I pivot at the hips slightly at the finish and recovery? Will work to correct this if that's the case. Thanks for the comments!

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Post by Bob S. » April 23rd, 2007, 11:38 pm

Stonewaly wrote:
Well, it's basically concentrated at the base of the tail bone (definitely not the sitz bones). Doesn't shoot up the spine at all or down a leg.
Tail bone problems suggest that the seat might be reversed. Every so often this happens, both on ergs and OTW. Those who have been around either or both kinds of rowing just take it for granted, but it isn't really intuitively obvious that the V-notch in the seat goes in the back. It is easy for anyone setting up a boat or an erg for the first time to make the wrong guess on which way it should go.

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Post by Stonewaly » April 24th, 2007, 10:28 pm

@Bob: Thanks - double checked, the seat is properly placed.

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