Lactate testing or Vo2 max

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Tsnor
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Re: Lactate testing or Vo2 max

Post by Tsnor » March 4th, 2025, 4:35 pm

gvcormac wrote:
March 4th, 2025, 3:51 pm
nick rockliff wrote:
March 4th, 2025, 2:58 pm

Wrong person quoted.
Oops. Thanks!

Now I can't seem to find an "edit" button on my post. I could've sworn that was possible.

[Edit: Doubly weird. I can edit this post but not the one with the incorrect citation. Maybe post is locked once somebody quotes it. I'm not entirely opposed to that behaviour, as moving targets are annoying.]
Once a post is referenced or after a period of time the EDIT right goes away. I often edit, it works great.

Aside: This seems high. "..Seiler-- Mr. Polarized training -- ... mentions 80% of heart-rate-reserve as a threshold" You sometimes see charts of his that show 78% of max HR (not HRR) as the LT1, VT1 inflection point, but his guidance for zone 1,2 is to train below that, not at that.

Examples for person with 180 max HR, 70 resting HR.

80% of heart rate reserve --> (resting HR + (max HR minus resting heart rate times 80%)
70 + 0.8 * (180-70) = 158

80% of max HR --> 0.8 * 180 = 144

Typical zone 1,2 target is 70% of max HR; 0.7 * 180 = 126

Quite a wide range. There are also formulas based on percent of 1 hour power, etc. If you crank the numbers on all of them the percent of HRR numbers are the highest and the 70% max HR numbers are lowest. The wide range made me give up formulas and focus on HR drift and "conversation test".

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Re: Lactate testing or Vo2 max

Post by gvcormac » March 4th, 2025, 5:26 pm

FWIW, here's me at a recent race:

Jun 16 2024
Waterloo Running
10.11 km Distance
51:10 Time
5:04 /km Avg Pace
160 bpm Avg HR
171 bpm Max HR

And here's a recent training run:

Nov 17 2024
Waterloo Running
10.53 km Distance
1:04:27 Time
6:07 /km Avg Pace
137 bpm Avg HR
161 bpm Max HR

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Re: Lactate testing or Vo2 max

Post by Citroen » March 4th, 2025, 7:52 pm

gvcormac wrote:
March 4th, 2025, 3:51 pm
Now I can't seem to find an "edit" button on my post. I could've sworn that was possible.
It should be possible. I've checked that posting is not locked.

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Re: Lactate testing or Vo2 max

Post by gvcormac » March 4th, 2025, 8:37 pm

Citroen wrote:
March 4th, 2025, 7:52 pm
gvcormac wrote:
March 4th, 2025, 3:51 pm
Now I can't seem to find an "edit" button on my post. I could've sworn that was possible.
It should be possible. I've checked that posting is not locked.
The edit button is definitely not there.

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Re: Lactate testing or Vo2 max

Post by Ombrax » March 5th, 2025, 12:32 am

For a short time after submitting a post it can be edited, but after a while (don't know exactly how long) that option goes away and it's cast in stone.

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