rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

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rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by davegrace » July 13th, 2021, 3:06 pm

I prefer rowing with my hands in a nuetral position (uo and down) like shaking someone's hand. it seems to externally rotate my shoulders and causes less issues to my torn rotator cuffs. anyone know where i could find a handle like that? think ------ as the normal handle and I
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as the handle i want

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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by kini62 » July 13th, 2021, 4:27 pm

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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by whp4 » July 13th, 2021, 7:19 pm

The Concept2 DYNO strength training machine (alas, nla) had a set of such handles that pivoted freely. Might be worth calling up C2 and seeing if there is someone in the engineering group that has some ideas, even if they can’t just sell you one. Unfortunately JonW has retired, but he’s still active here on the forums: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=539

The DYNO assembly instructions have some images of the handles: https://www.concept2.com/files/pdf/us/d ... n10_01.pdf

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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by Ombrax » July 13th, 2021, 8:46 pm

That sort of weight-machine equipment is also what came to my mind after reading the original post. However, one concern I would have about going that route is the total width between hands. I'm wondering if it would be better to have one's hand farther apart than you would if using the weight machine handle.

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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by mict450 » July 13th, 2021, 10:02 pm

Ombrax wrote:
July 13th, 2021, 8:46 pm

one concern I would have about going that route is the total width between hands. I'm wondering if it would be better to have one's hand farther apart than you would if using the weight machine handle.
The thought occurred to me also. I think OP may need to go the DIY route. I remember someone fabricated handles to mimic the feathering action of the oars OTW. Used rope & PVC...not pretty, but did the job. John R, perhaps?
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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by whp4 » July 13th, 2021, 11:19 pm

There was some character that built something with a ton of hardware and insisted it was better than sliced sex, what was his name…oh, yeah, slidewinder!

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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by Dutch » July 15th, 2021, 1:16 pm

When rowing in a gym on a slabbed weights machine, most people I know reckon they pulled more weight with a neutral grip. Overhand grip was more strict.
Also neutral grip transfers some of the pulling away from the mid traps region and allows more activity from the side delt, chest (pec major) and the bicep, also to some extent more tricep activation as well.
Hands being in a neutral grip also allows the elbows to be more naturally inline behind the wrist when pulling back and thus cutting the risk of tennis elbow because of the elbows flaring outwards.
Rotator cuffs would be in neutral as well as has been mentioned.
The only down point would be possibly bicep pumps that for some people maybe painful, but this would be something people would get used to.
I think the rope and PVC handles route is excellent and something I am going to follow up on. 👍
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Re: rotator cuff, rowing with different handle?

Post by wpuk » July 18th, 2021, 12:45 pm

davegrace wrote:
July 13th, 2021, 3:06 pm
I prefer rowing with my hands in a nuetral position (uo and down) like shaking someone's hand. it seems to externally rotate my shoulders and causes less issues to my torn rotator cuffs. anyone know where i could find a handle like that? think ------ as the normal handle and I
I
as the handle i want
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