Skierg technique and muscles used..
- autumn_darkness
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Skierg technique and muscles used..
Hola
I am just starting to ski(erg) and I have a question..
I am a runner and I always was a runner so I started to feel like a t-rex because all my training went into my legs.. I bought a Skierg so I could balance out my training and use my upper body some. But when I go skiing with intensity it still feels like my legs are getting most of the pain (and so I asume most of the training). What am I doing wrong?
All respect, GRiM
I am just starting to ski(erg) and I have a question..
I am a runner and I always was a runner so I started to feel like a t-rex because all my training went into my legs.. I bought a Skierg so I could balance out my training and use my upper body some. But when I go skiing with intensity it still feels like my legs are getting most of the pain (and so I asume most of the training). What am I doing wrong?
All respect, GRiM
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
Hmmm, this is strange, since the skierg is predominantly an upper body exerciser. Post a video of yourself using the skierg on YouTube & attach the link here for evaluation. Also, try sitting on a chair to take your legs out of it.
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Shasta County, CA, small town USA
Old, slow & getting more so
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
Its the triceps, lats/midback and truck that drive the stroke.autumn_darkness wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 8:02 pmHola
I am just starting to ski(erg) and I have a question..
I am a runner and I always was a runner so I started to feel like a t-rex because all my training went into my legs.. I bought a Skierg so I could balance out my training and use my upper body some. But when I go skiing with intensity it still feels like my legs are getting most of the pain (and so I asume most of the training). What am I doing wrong?
All respect, GRiM
The lower back and legs are used when you recover.
It could be, that you being a runner and not so strong in your upperbody use a very squat dominant stroke, by that
I mean not a shallow squat with a goodmorning movement, but a more upright one with a deeper squat, if so that have your legs working more.
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
You haven't told use what damper setting you're using.
Eric, YOB:1954
Old, slow & getting more so
Shasta County, CA, small town USA
Old, slow & getting more so
Shasta County, CA, small town USA
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
That’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
Definitely xc skier style. Very nice.
Eric, YOB:1954
Old, slow & getting more so
Shasta County, CA, small town USA
Old, slow & getting more so
Shasta County, CA, small town USA
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
In reality there is very little leg work going on in that. At most it's a very shallow squat, maybe 1/5-1/6. The legs are only stopping the downward momentum and are not used in generating power. The power comes from the hips on up.NoWatts wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 9:45 amThat’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
59m, 5'6" 160lbs, rowing and skiing (pseudo) on the Big Island of Hawaii.
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
I don’t see a squat, i see calfraises with and all the additional muscles like quadriceps and glutes working to extent the body while keeping tension in the abs to reach the proper catchposition. Then the drop with the pull, crunch, goodmorning movement almost simultaneously. I agree with:kini62 wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 3:47 pmIn reality there is very little leg work going on in that. At most it's a very shallow squat, maybe 1/5-1/6. The legs are only stopping the downward momentum and are not used in generating power. The power comes from the hips on up.NoWatts wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 9:45 amThat’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
Not directly used but used to get in the best catchpostion. At least i never thought about a squat while trying to learn the movement....stoping the downward momentum and are not used in generating power. The power comes from the hips on up.
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
Is that you? My style is quite similar, except my arms are not bent as much but I think they're improving,NoWatts wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 9:45 amThat’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
and I use the same kind of shoes! I feel the primary movers for me are my feet, legs, gluts and hips, followed
by my back, shoulders, arms and hands. From what I have seen on videos, the top cross country skiers do the same.
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
That's because they're actually skiing. The skierg is not a XC ski simulator.johnlvs2run wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 7:10 pmIs that you? My style is quite similar, except my arms are not bent as much but I think they're improving,NoWatts wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 9:45 amThat’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
and I use the same kind of shoes! I feel the primary movers for me are my feet, legs, gluts and hips, followed
by my back, shoulders, arms and hands. From what I have seen on videos, the top cross country skiers do the same.
59m, 5'6" 160lbs, rowing and skiing (pseudo) on the Big Island of Hawaii.
Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
Nooo, that’s not me .This guy’s steadystate is my maxpull . Sorry, I think my last sentence was a bit irritating being English not my first language.johnlvs2run wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 7:10 pmIs that you? My style is quite similar, except my arms are not bent as much but I think they're improving,NoWatts wrote: ↑June 8th, 2020, 9:45 amThat’s the style I try to copy, quite some leg movement involved.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CA-NkYCJ9we ... knfqhfoxyw
and I use the same kind of shoes! I feel the primary movers for me are my feet, legs, gluts and hips, followed
by my back, shoulders, arms and hands. From what I have seen on videos, the top cross country skiers do the same.
I meant, I never saw the movement as a squat and i can feel my legs too a fair bit. At the end its the watts on the pm that counts.
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=94R5CmIt7QM
Here is Jason Marshall doing a sub6 2k. He is by far the best skierger overall. Fast from 500 to the full Marathon, has most overall Wr s. So he must do things pretty ok.
Here is Jason Marshall doing a sub6 2k. He is by far the best skierger overall. Fast from 500 to the full Marathon, has most overall Wr s. So he must do things pretty ok.
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
According to this guy, you predominantly feel it in your legs if doing it correctly. Just sayin’. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVLE3Od5hOQ
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
He has no clue at all. Does not use the machine himself, it a rower with an untrained upperbody, pushing wise.brookwaters wrote: ↑June 9th, 2020, 5:15 amAccording to this guy, you predominantly feel it in your legs if doing it correctly. Just sayin’. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVLE3Od5hOQ
If this was true, with rowing you should feel it mostly in the abs, triceps and shoulders, cause they do the recovery and not legs, back and lats cause they “only” do the direct stroke.
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Re: Skierg technique and muscles used..
hjs wrote: ↑June 9th, 2020, 5:28 amHe has no clue at all. Does not use the machine himself, it a rower with an untrained upperbody, pushing wise.brookwaters wrote: ↑June 9th, 2020, 5:15 amAccording to this guy, you predominantly feel it in your legs if doing it correctly. Just sayin’. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVLE3Od5hOQ
If this was true, with rowing you should feel it mostly in the abs, triceps and shoulders, cause they do the recovery and not legs, back and lats cause they “only” do the direct stroke.
So you’re saying a SkiErg COACH who works for Concept 2 and is a Nordic skiier has no clue at all? You’re really funny.