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How do I look?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1lWUrkQxc

Sorry, the Concept II forum admins have prevented me from posting a real link because I'm a new user (bad policy guys.) You'll have to replace the "dot" with a "." to view the video. Do you see any problems? As I increase time, am I setting myself up for injury? Am I erging effciently? Your input greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Ryan
Chandler, AZ

[EDIT] Fixed my link [/EDIT]

Random wrote: www dot youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1lWUrkQxc
Sorry, the Concept II forum admins have prevented me from posting a real link because I'm a new user (bad policy guys.) You'll have to replace the "dot" with a "." to view the video.
Ryan
Chandler, AZ

Ryan,

First I must apologize since I am not responding to your request. With a telephone modem, I just don't have the time to wait out the video downloads. However, I am sure that you will get some good responses.

But I feel that I should defend the forum administrators. I know that it was a nuisance to have to spend a bit more time to get the URL into your message. The point is that your message was sincere and that provided you with enough motivation to work your way around the rule.

This forum was beginning to get an awful lot of crap from spammers and the rule was added to slow this down. It has been in effect for only a short time, but it has been quite effective so far. The usual spammer will not bother to go to the trouble of getting around the rule the way you did. By the way, congratulations on working out a way to make the URL available. You deserve some good answers to your request.

And welcome to the forum!

Bob S.

Random wrote:How do I look?

www dot youtube.com/watch?v=Dm1lWUrkQxc

Sorry, the Concept II forum admins have prevented me from posting a real link because I'm a new user (bad policy guys.) You'll have to replace the "dot" with a "." to view the video. Do you see any problems? As I increase time, am I setting myself up for injury? Am I erging effciently? Your input greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Ryan
Chandler, AZ

Thank the spammers Ryan, they are the cause.

I watched though.

A few point,s,

You don,t "rock over" enough, at the beginning of the drive you should touch you tights with your chest.
Not your hands but you legs are "leading" the recovery. After the stroke you should first get you hands away, start rocking your body over you hips and then breask your legs.
3 th point. Try rowing "feet out" I think you finish your stroke weak. Instead of keeping the power all the way, you start the recovery before the stroke is 100% finished.

Good luck and no doubt you wil get more tips.

Random wrote:How do I look?

Ryan Rowing

Sorry, the Concept II forum admins have prevented me from posting a real link because I'm a new user (bad policy guys.) You'll have to replace the "dot" with a "." to view the video. Do you see any problems? As I increase time, am I setting myself up for injury? Am I erging effciently? Your input greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Ryan
Chandler, AZ

Let's at least fix the link people!

Ryan Rowing

Thanks Paul! I really appreiciate you taking the time to fix the link!

Thanks for the advice, hjs, I'm able to envision what you mean. I think part of my problem is the fact that my back is very inflexible.

Sorry to have offended, admins, I've participated in many boards, and have even volunteered as an admin myself before. I know there are a lot of bots out there that post nonsense and links. It is a creative solution.

Random wrote:Thanks Paul! I really appreiciate you taking the time to fix the link!

Thanks for the advice, hjs, I'm able to envision what you mean. I think part of my problem is the fact that my back is very inflexible.

Hi Ryan!

That your back is "inflexible" should actually be a plus, since you shouldn't be bending your back. The "back swing" is actually a pivot from the hip. Find the place where your thigh bone insterts into the hip...this is the pivot point. As you pivot your torso forward and backward, you will want your torso to be "tall & stable" and to move as a unit.

As I look at your video, your pelvis is not rocking forward and back. (You may have misunderstood an instruction to pivot at the hip as referring to the top of the hip bone--which is approx 4-8 inches above the pivot point.)

HTH,

Alissa

Thanks Alissa. Does anyone know of a "perfect form" video I could try and emulate?

[EDIT] I answered my own question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HVCgzdR ... ed&search=
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PaulS wrote: Let's at least fix the link people!

Ryan Rowing

Yeah, I didn't think about that. But then I wouldn't have known how to do it in the fancy way that you did, Paul. I would have had to put in the original URL with the proper change. I don't know how to do it with a replacement clickon, i.e. the Ryan Rowing bit.

Bob S.

Hi Ryan,

http://www.concept2.com/us/training/tools/howtorow.asp

Here is a video of two guys in a double. These guys are good, I think. I like the way the guy in back (bow seat) keeps his back well supported:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwU7yJd7wA8

The guy in the instruction video you found opens his back a little early, I think, and I think he overreaches at the catch. In other words, he could hold onto the forward lean a little longer during the drive. At the catch you want your shins vertical and perhaps your stomach against your legs, but not your chest. At least that's what I've been taught. I have to be careful with my back and usually if I start to get lower back aches, it's because I'm not keeping it straight enough. I think you're in a stronger position to drive with the legs if your back is straight and well supported.

Here is another source:

http://www.invernessrowingclub.co.uk/strokecycles.html

Many of the elite rowers seem to contradict what I just said about keeping the back straight. Olaf Tufte, among others, seems to me to be quite slouched over during the first part of the drive. But who am I to criticize? All I can say is for me things go much better when I keep the back fairly straight and well supported.

Byron

Hi Ryan,

I'll add a couple comments.

Recovery:
You have good layback at the finish but your recovery needs a little tweaking. After your stroke, first extend your arms, then pivot forward with your head high, then move your seat forward. TIP...Pretend the handle is pulling you back to the catch. Let the handle draw the rest of your body forward. You are moving your legs before your hands cross your knees and it appears that you may even need to raise your hands to prevent contact with your legs. Try not to move your seat until your hands cross your knees on the recovery.

Power stroke:
You seem to have very little forward lean at the catch. During your stroke, you reach your full layback position before your knees are down. Drive your legs and then open your back. After your legs are down, you should still have some time left in your stroke to further open your back into your full layback position while contracting your arms. I can't see where you foot position is but you might want to experiment by lowering the heel cup a notch or two. It might enable you to reach forward a bit more.

Good luck. The video was a clever idea.

Rick

Random wrote:Thanks Alissa. Does anyone know of a "perfect form" video I could try and emulate?

[EDIT] I answered my own question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HVCgzdR ... ed&search=
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Here's another one that's nice.

Animation of Xeno from Paul Smith

Am wondering if this works. I've embedded a Pando link. You'll need to download a small program from Pando to make this work, I think. If the embedded file doesn't offer an opportunity to download it, you can get it from http://www.pando.com.

Alissa

Thanks for the info, and links everyone. I see what I am doing wrong now, and am enthused to put all of your advice to good use in my morning workout tomorrow. What a great forum!

Alissa,

I got that program but you're .pando file is "invalid"

csabour wrote:Alissa,

I got that program but you're .pando file is "invalid"

Oh dear...I'll have to try again when I get home...

Alissa

Update:

I took your advice and got a much better workout. My split time went frrom 2:28 down to 2:08, and I felt the burn more in my upper body. Thank you all for your suggestions and help!