Concept2 Forum

Hi Everyone.

Ok, I am totally sold on this device.

This is a seat attachement from Coreperfom for Concept2 C & D.

It strengthens and stabilizes your core.

This will make you stronger on and off the water.

Rowing without it has gotten boring for me.

I have it listed on my website: http://www.gorow.com/Coreperform.htm

It is great. The inventors did a great job.

Sincerely,
XENO

Xeno,

Great to see that you are onboard with the CP1, I was similarly impressed with the product.

There is another thread regarding the CP1 and an idea on how to make reference to the movable [Mv] and Fixed [Fx] modes when planning workouts.

http://www.c2forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=279

Your thoughts on this would be welcome.

more pictures of the product would be nice

I agree, several months back I sent an email to the company that produces it asking to see some pictures because $150.00 is not pocket change. I never heard back. I am very intrigured by it and would purchase it but I'm not paying $150.00 for something I can't see or judge qualityand usefulness. The only reason I can think for not showing the pictures is that they don't want someone to replicate it. Well I promise you I have no engineering or fabrication abilities so if you are willing to email me the pictures privately, you have nothing to worry about from me trying to copy it. Father's day is coming up and that would be a good excuse for me to purchase it but I'm not buying something sight unseen.

Thanks Xeno!

Rich

OOps I just noticed there is a picture on Paul's website that can be found on the thread that Paul inluced. Looks well built. I think I will buy my Father's day present!

Well there is still only one picture, more would be better

xeno wrote:Hi Everyone.

Ok, I am totally sold on this device.

This is a seat attachement from Coreperfom for Concept2 C & D.

It strengthens and stabilizes your core.

This will make you stronger on and off the water.

Rowing without it has gotten boring for me.

I have it listed on my website: http://www.gorow.com/Coreperform.htm

It is great. The inventors did a great job.

Sincerely,
XENO

Xeno,

Can this be used on a Model B? The advertisement says it's for a Model C or D. So?

Hi Xeno, Paul, and others,

My experience also is that using a seat that is unstable from side to side strengthens the core and firms up the middle.

I can't say I'm an expert sculler, but I can say that I'm sure my balance on the water has improved, and I have realized that you need good balance in order to have good bladework, including keeping the blades at the proper height during the drive and during the recovery. I've also noticed that with good bladework it is easier to get the stroke in order.

If anyone is wondering whether to get the CorePerform seat, you can do this experiment: Remove the four screws holding the seat, place a thin wood support under the seat, and put a wooden dowel (such as a rolling pin) between the supported seat and the metal frame that holds the seat so the seat can wobble from side to side. Now sit down carefully and take a few strokes on the ergometer. You'll feel your midsection being worked and how you need to balance. This should convince you that a seat that can be set to be unstable is a good idea. I've never used one, but I gather from their website that the RowPerfect ergometer comes standard with such a seat.

http://www.rowperfect.com.au/improve_balance.html

This topic came up on the old forum when I mentioned a simple, homemade unstable seat. At that time I didn't know about the CorePerform seat. We should thank Alissa for pointing out the CorePerform website to us.

Byron

Byron, I've used a Row Perfect and frankly didn't notice that the seat had this "built in", however it does have a small degree of freedom.

Alledieps, The "one picture" was created by me to show what the CP1 actually does, I'd seen a still picture of it and that obviously doesn't show much at all. You will be happy with it, I was impressed enough with the trial at the CRASH-B's to purchase them for my Ergs and then after using them for some time to make sure I was satisfied, made them available to my web site visitors along with the other products. I'm quite sure that Xeno shared a similar experience.

The only hitch so far, was that we managed to have the lever that controls the mode of the CP1 to fail, making only the "Moving mode" [Mv] possible. I had to pay the shipping to return the CP1, but a replacement arrived promptly. They also told me that they had not seen that issue come up before, so perhaps I was just unlucky.

As for the Model B, I'd have to say no, as teh seat mounting holes are different than on the C and D. I will look into that specifically when I get a moment to do so and if it is possible I will post that finding here.

I have switched the seat between the model B and C a few times.

The holes are exactly in the same place and the seats are interchangeable.

Byron,

Have you ever thought of making a stand, and hanging the erg from it.

This wouldn't need go up very high, perhaps 12 to 18 inches or so, and then would create a pendulum effect at both ends.

I suppose the length of the pendulum could be "tuned" depending on one's stroke length.

Have you ever thought of making a stand, and hanging the erg from it.

Hi John,

What a cool idea! If I had a front porch I would use that instead of a swing-couch. I'm guessing it would be fun.

I was originally going to make some curved pieces so the entire ergometer could rock from side to side. I saw a picture of such a setup once, and LJWagner also mentioned it. I read about the unstable seat at RowPerfect and that's when I made my simple version that is unstable with a dowel inserted and stable with the dowel removed. The CorePerform seat appears to be a very nice addition for the rowing community. A friend got one and she says it is nicely made, which is consistent with the other reports at this forum.

Byron

CorePerform seems excellent !

Question: would an unstable seating disc work similarly ? eg: http://www.fitter1.com/active-sitting-discs.html

I have not tried the CorePerform, and I am sending this from a location other than where my erg is, so I have not tried a seating disc either. I ask this with all due respect to those who designed and market what appears to be, again, something excellent for the erging community. ( I very well may ultimately purchase one ! )

I'm simply interested in determining how much more "bang for my buck" the CP provides over the "poor man's CP", ie; an unstable seating disc.

Best,

Eddie

Byron Drachman wrote:What a cool idea! If I had a front porch I would use that instead of a swing-couch. I'm guessing it would be fun.

Hi Byron,

Yes it sure would be a lot of fun. The base could be made of metal or wood. A base going the length of the erg would be more stable, for example a beam going the length on each side, then up -- outside of the erg feet -- and across.

A rod or rope can hang from the cross pieces and attach to either a base under the feet of the erg, or to the feet themselves. Having it attach to a base would give more flexibility in the use, i.e. moving the erg from on and off of the base.

PaulS,
Someone posted a movie of Xeno testing out this seat and it definitely looks great! Maybe i should start saving up soon. If anyone can repost that link, that'd be cool. (I think it was Xeno himself)