Looking for a workout

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Zuman
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Looking for a workout

Post by Zuman » May 9th, 2022, 11:21 am

Hello, all. I'm looking for a C2 workout "concept" for the next year or so. Here are my basics:
1) I'm not a rookie. I'm approaching 6 million meters on my C2 rower over the past four years.
2) I've done a couple of C2 marathons and participated in most of the challenges.
3) I'll be 70 years old this year...
4) I'm a 5'9" male and about 158lb.
5) I don't build muscle easily and never have. It's not my training style, it's genetic.
6) I've followed the Maffetone method (quite carefully) and regressed in both endurance and speed/power.
7) I don't have a great resting HR...it's about 60-62.
8) I'm not fast. I can maintain about a 2:30 pace during a 30 minute workout, 2:40 or so when going longer than an hour.
9) I typically row 6 days a week.
I know that Orangetheory has lost some of its shine in recent years, but I'm intrigued by the idea of spending a certain amount of time in a challenging HR zone. The problem is that I don't know how long my overall workout should be, how long intervals should be, what is the optimum breakdown between hard and easy intervals, and how hard I should push (80% of HR max? 90%? 100%???).
My goal is to keep holding back the years and to move up the general performance ladder for my age group.
Anyone have any program suggestions? Thanks!

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Re: Looking for a workout

Post by mitchel674 » May 9th, 2022, 12:38 pm

I'm a bit younger than you, but I see a lot of similarities in your post. I've been rowing seriously for 4 years, 7 million meters, marathon, maffetone, don't build much muscle, etc...

"You reap what you row". Seems we both do a lot of longer, steady rows with a weak stroke. Doing a lot of this just reinforces this pattern.

I think we need to mix it up and do some more interval training. I've restarted the beginner Pete Plan to this end. This will be my third time through. I do all five rows each week which forces me to get out of my comfort zone and do some tougher interval training. Perhaps you should consider it as well.
59yo male, 6ft, 153lbs

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Re: Looking for a workout

Post by Citroen » May 9th, 2022, 2:44 pm

Have you tried the "workout of the day"?

https://www.concept2.com/news/looking-g ... uggestions

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Re: Looking for a workout

Post by NurseBobbi » May 9th, 2022, 5:24 pm

I’ve been rowing for fun and general fitness for years. I’m not fast and never will be. At 67, I though my days of beating my old personal bests were over. I’d taken instructor training through UCanRow2 back in 2015. It was a great in person class that I found beneficial even though I’m not going for instructor certification. They started offering some self-paced online courses over the past few years, so I checked them out when I wanted to get out of my rut last summer. RowNow is designed for absolute beginners. RowReady is a 6-week program intended to be used repeatedly. Each week, it includes 1 steady state workout, 1 medium intensity interval workout, 1 high intensity interval workout, and one bonus workout. I went through both courses starting last July. (RowReady was a great refresher on the basics.) My rowing improved, and I even set some new PBs. In addition to the UCR2 workouts, I get C2’s WOD and have collected workouts from the extensive resources on their website. I generally do 2 interval workouts per week (1 medium and on high intensity) and 4 steady state workouts per week. One of the steady states is longer. (The SS workouts I do on my three strength training days are shorter, 20-30 minutes.)

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Re: Looking for a workout

Post by jamesg » May 10th, 2022, 1:41 am

The problem is that I don't know how long my overall workout should be, how long intervals should be, what is the optimum breakdown between hard and easy intervals, and how hard I should push (80% of HR max? 90%? 100%???).
As basic concept, train your stroke, so that you train yourself.

Suggest you do not more than 90 minutes a week all intense on the erg, plus warm-up. All rowing is intense but is made doable by using low ratings, 18-23, and short pieces.

Intensity refers to the stroke itself: and numerically, is Watts/Rating. Keep this as high as possible, but keep the ratings low. Drag should be low enough to allow a quick leg driven stroke with a slow recovery, as to standard rowing technique.

Stay as close to 2W/kg (so up to 140W) as possible in short intervals at low ratings, not more than 5 minutes each, so that there's no need to bother about HR.

Easy is what else you do: anything you like. Weather permitting I do 30-40 minutes a day small hill walking with sticks, 4-5 days a week, raising a little sweat.
08-1940, 179cm, 83kg.

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Re: Looking for a workout

Post by Zuman » May 10th, 2022, 9:56 pm

Thank you, all. You've given me some really good suggestions and I think my answer is among them!

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