Focus vs. Distraction

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by OregonERG » May 2nd, 2021, 12:36 am

mrhartysir wrote:
April 28th, 2021, 6:19 pm
Are there lists of songs to row to for a certain SPM like there are songs for running a certain cadence?
I don't know about the SPM but yes, as you said, there are songs that use with a set BPM... Here is one that increased the rate to make it better for spin classes...

https://youtu.be/JCFS_NBCaOg?t=10

The problem is that you will have a harder time finding the specific songs you want. The good news is that if you search for "150 bpm" or whatever pace, you will find a lot of tracks tuned to your pace.
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by whp4 » May 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am

OregonERG wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 12:36 am

I don't know about the SPM but yes, as you said, there are songs that use with a set BPM... Here is one that increased the rate to make it better for spin classes...

https://youtu.be/JCFS_NBCaOg?t=10

The problem is that you will have a harder time finding the specific songs you want. The good news is that if you search for "150 bpm" or whatever pace, you will find a lot of tracks tuned to your pace.
Keep your body parts a safe distance away from the rower who is doing 150 spm :D

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by Dangerscouse » May 2nd, 2021, 5:01 am

whp4 wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am
Keep your body parts a safe distance away from the rower who is doing 150 spm :D
And have a fire extinguisher close to hand
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by Tobias Stoehr » May 2nd, 2021, 11:46 am

I found the quality of my training suffers when I not concentrate on the training I’m doing.

For performance purposes I’d not advise it.

However a training with distraction might be better than no training at all!

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by OregonERG » May 2nd, 2021, 1:12 pm

whp4 wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am
OregonERG wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 12:36 am

I don't know about the SPM but yes, as you said, there are songs that use with a set BPM... Here is one that increased the rate to make it better for spin classes...

https://youtu.be/JCFS_NBCaOg?t=10

The problem is that you will have a harder time finding the specific songs you want. The good news is that if you search for "150 bpm" or whatever pace, you will find a lot of tracks tuned to your pace.
Keep your body parts a safe distance away from the rower who is doing 150 spm :D
:D So true! I just meant as an example of the type of video. You guys with the beloved 20 spm will need to find some dirge from Brahms or Beethoven.
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by OregonERG » May 2nd, 2021, 1:16 pm

Tobias Stoehr wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 11:46 am
I found the quality of my training suffers when I not concentrate on the training I’m doing.

For performance purposes I’d not advise it.

However a training with distraction might be better than no training at all!
Genau! That is a big part of the benefit. I can row 20 minutes really well if I focus; I hit my splits and my form is better. But if I am watching Rückkehr der Nibelungen or Game of Thrones, I might row for a solid hour. I can't just stare at the PM5 for an hour on a "base building" day when the goal is to just get some moderate meters in the bank.
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by OregonERG » May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 5:01 am
whp4 wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am
Keep your body parts a safe distance away from the rower who is doing 150 spm :D
And have a fire extinguisher close to hand
I am trying to even find a song slow enough for 20 spm... :wink:

Maybe this would work? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljpe307QhM0

Seriously though, here is a guy who did go through and break it down by SPM. I don't use Spotify but if you do, this might be good: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rowing/comment ... ever_need/
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by mict450 » May 3rd, 2021, 12:58 am

My preference is for viewing TV programs that would appeal to the kindergarten mentality.....Three Stooges, classic Looney Tunes cartoons, etc.
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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by mrhartysir » May 4th, 2021, 9:18 am

Tried rowing to an audio book last night.

I'm not there yet. My form isn't great in the first place, so the second I don't focus on it, it's a disaster.

Looks like no distractions for me for quite a while still.

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by whp4 » May 4th, 2021, 10:16 am

OregonERG wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 pm
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 5:01 am
whp4 wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 2:30 am
Keep your body parts a safe distance away from the rower who is doing 150 spm :D
And have a fire extinguisher close to hand
I am trying to even find a song slow enough for 20 spm... :wink:
Youtube provides the option to play back at 1/4 speed — just cue up your favorite 80 spm material, click on the options and ppppllllaaaayyyy iiiitttt sssslllloooowwww[ly] :D

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by mrhartysir » May 4th, 2021, 1:30 pm

whp4 wrote:
May 4th, 2021, 10:16 am
OregonERG wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 1:24 pm
Dangerscouse wrote:
May 2nd, 2021, 5:01 am


And have a fire extinguisher close to hand
I am trying to even find a song slow enough for 20 spm... :wink:
Youtube provides the option to play back at 1/4 speed — just cue up your favorite 80 spm material, click on the options and ppppllllaaaayyyy iiiitttt sssslllloooowwww[ly] :D
Maybe try playing songs with a BPM that's a multiple of the SPM you want.

At 20 SPM, an 80 BPM song will have four beats per stroke.

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Re: Focus vs. Distraction

Post by Boomer » May 9th, 2021, 5:00 am

d and occasionally e. If I listen to or watch anything else I slow down. Only recently I have been able to let my mind wander and not change rate or split and only on longer steady pieces.
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