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Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 4:48 am
by Huopaaja
Hello,
Got an erg at the beginning of March to cope with the premature end of the cross-country ski season and home confinement. Clocked in over 500k since then mostly based on the Pete Plan, and it seems the easy technique-based gains have been made by now and progress is starting to level off. I started out from being able to pull 300W/1:45 for just about a minute and now doing it for 5k (<17:30).
My other main goals I still haven’t dared to try are a 6:40 2k and a 100k row with no strict time target. I’m planning to probably save these for the spring series challenge and the century challenge in May for a little added incentive. I’ve done an FM and a 50k, but the butt pain during these longer sessions gets pretty bad and forces a lot of breaks towards the end. I am not sure if the pain is induced by exhausting the glutes from pulling or sitting, or both. I’m using bubble wrapper and a c2 foam pad, but most times they only make it worse. I’m also doing some stretching and rolling with a foam roller and trigger ball. Probably could do even more.
Any further advice on how I could get my ass in gear to survive the long practice rows and accumulate total mileage needed ahead of that 100k row?
A bonus question: does anyone know a tool for screening music available on spotify by genre (looking for metal or similar) and beats per minute? Or can you refer any stroke rate-based playlists you use for rowing? May be a tall order, but I’d find it helpful to have specific playlists by rating for even numbers between 18 and 40 or so. Maybe I should look for bpms multiplying the target stroke rates by 2 or 3?
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 6:37 am
by hjs
Re glutepain, I think its mostly limited bloodflow due to the sitting on them 100% of the time. Tough to fix that.
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 8:22 am
by winniewinser
Huopaaja wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 4:48 am
Hello,
Got an erg at the beginning of March to cope with the premature end of the cross-country ski season and home confinement. Clocked in over 500k since then mostly based on the Pete Plan, and it seems the easy technique-based gains have been made by now and progress is starting to level off. I started out from being able to pull 300W/1:45 for just about a minute and now doing it for 5k (<17:30).
My other main goals I still haven’t dared to try are a 6:40 2k and a 100k row with no strict time target. I’m planning to probably save these for the spring series challenge and the century challenge in May for a little added incentive. I’ve done an FM and a 50k, but the butt pain during these longer sessions gets pretty bad and forces a lot of breaks towards the end. I am not sure if the pain is induced by exhausting the glutes from pulling or sitting, or both. I’m using bubble wrapper and a c2 foam pad, but most times they only make it worse. I’m also doing some stretching and rolling with a foam roller and trigger ball. Probably could do even more.
Any further advice on how I could get my ass in gear to survive the long practice rows and accumulate total mileage needed ahead of that 100k row?
A bonus question: does anyone know a tool for screening music available on spotify by genre (looking for metal or similar) and beats per minute? Or can you refer any stroke rate-based playlists you use for rowing? May be a tall order, but I’d find it helpful to have specific playlists by rating for even numbers between 18 and 40 or so. Maybe I should look for bpms multiplying the target stroke rates by 2 or 3?
Sounds like you were pretty fit/strong at the start your journey and have taken to it very quickly. You don't say how old, tall or heavy you are so we can gauge your levels but they are impressive to me.
Keep it up.
Other will be able to help on the extreme distance erging I'm sure as I've only got as far as a HM to date.
Welcome
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 8:51 am
by Dangerscouse
Welcome to the forum. I don't think there's any solution other than getting used to it and being lucky if your physiology helps endure it.
Regarding the 100k eventually it stops being a pain although it does take a while to get to that point. I used a cut up yoga mat in a pillow case when it starts to hurt but I can easily last for two, and sometimes three hours.
You have got some very good times for a newbie to rowing, so a 6:40 2k should be achievable if you're already sub 17:30 for a 5k
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 1:08 pm
by Huopaaja
Thanks for the responses.
I’m in my early 40s, quite fit from other sports and 6’4” tall HWT, so while I’m pleased with the progress I’ve made, I know it isn’t that spectacular. I’m also very familiar with wattage-based interval training in cycling, which probably makes erg rowing more approachable and appealing, I guess.
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 21st, 2020, 2:37 pm
by Tenshuu
Huopaaja wrote: ↑April 21st, 2020, 4:48 am
Hello,
Got an erg at the beginning of March to cope with the premature end of the cross-country ski season and home confinement. Clocked in over 500k since then mostly based on the Pete Plan, and it seems the easy technique-based gains have been made by now and progress is starting to level off. I started out from being able to pull 300W/1:45 for just about a minute and now doing it for 5k (<17:30).
My other main goals I still haven’t dared to try are a 6:40 2k and a 100k row with no strict time target. I’m planning to probably save these for the spring series challenge and the century challenge in May for a little added incentive. I’ve done an FM and a 50k, but the butt pain during these longer sessions gets pretty bad and forces a lot of breaks towards the end. I am not sure if the pain is induced by exhausting the glutes from pulling or sitting, or both. I’m using bubble wrapper and a c2 foam pad, but most times they only make it worse. I’m also doing some stretching and rolling with a foam roller and trigger ball. Probably could do even more.
Any further advice on how I could get my ass in gear to survive the long practice rows and accumulate total mileage needed ahead of that 100k row?
A bonus question: does anyone know a tool for screening music available on spotify by genre (looking for metal or similar) and beats per minute? Or can you refer any stroke rate-based playlists you use for rowing? May be a tall order, but I’d find it helpful to have specific playlists by rating for even numbers between 18 and 40 or so. Maybe I should look for bpms multiplying the target stroke rates by 2 or 3?
I'm here for the bonus question! I don't have any specific playlists for stroke rate - but I've found a pretty good playlist for any of my hard training sessions or PB attempts - I'm a free user but this playlist FIRE for me when I'm focused on my session.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9d ... 7uyjcZ00Zw ---Adrenaline Workout is the title
For regular training days - this is what Spotify put together for me as a "Daily Playlist 1"....
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9d ... eyH3UzeKEG
Definitely let me know if this hits some of the right buttons for you!
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: April 22nd, 2020, 10:09 am
by Huopaaja
Thanks Tenshuu, I used your playlist today for my 30 min time trial in the spring series. Managed a pretty solid 8255 meters at a constant pace - wasn’t quite all out, but tough enough as the second hardest effort for the week. In return, I’d say my current go-to Spotify albums for hard efforts are Sepultura’s Arise and The Haunted’s The Haunted made me do it
Even if my taste in music wouldn’t normally be that aggro, it helps me dig a little deeper at a moment of self-inflicted ergo pain...
However, it also feels to me this type of music is mostly inclined to higher stroke rates than what I’d use for long efforts (around 30 as opposed to 24-26) which sometimes makes my rating drift up to the beat of the music if I don’t keep my eyes on the meter. Then again, maybe it’s just a novice issue and not something experienced ergers worry about.
Re: Introducing myself, with a few questions
Posted: March 6th, 2022, 4:53 pm
by Kursplunk
Might be a late reply, but you can use
http://www.playlistmachinery.com/
to organise a Spotify playlist by various parameters such as BPM/, Energy, etc.