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If I pull a 2:04 for 5000m but then bring my split down to a 1:52 for the last 1000, what will my final time be? 19y old hvwt female, first 6k test. 2k PB 7:14

5000m @ 2:04 pace is 20'40"
1000m @ 1:52 pace is 3'44"

So your 6K total will be 24'24" with an average pace of 2:02

Thats a bizarre pacing strategy for a 6k test

If you can pull a 7:14 2k, then doing a 6k with a 2:02 avg shouldn't even really be much of a test.

Anth_F wrote:Thats a bizarre pacing strategy for a 6k test

If you can pull a 7:14 2k, then doing a 6k with a 2:02 avg shouldn't even really be much of a test.

True, with a 148.5 2k, 6k could be expected around 156/57 ish. So why not start a bit faster?

hjs wrote:

Anth_F wrote:Thats a bizarre pacing strategy for a 6k test

If you can pull a 7:14 2k, then doing a 6k with a 2:02 avg shouldn't even really be much of a test.

True, with a 148.5 2k, 6k could be expected around 156/57 ish. So why not start a bit faster?

Her 2k PB is faster than mine. I pulled a 23:58 6k and it wasn't close to a test, it was just a regular workout @ r22.

Anth_F wrote:

hjs wrote:

Anth_F wrote:Thats a bizarre pacing strategy for a 6k test

If you can pull a 7:14 2k, then doing a 6k with a 2:02 avg shouldn't even really be much of a test.

True, with a 148.5 2k, 6k could be expected around 156/57 ish. So why not start a bit faster?

Her 2k PB is faster than mine. I pulled a 23:58 6k and it wasn't close to a test, it was just a regular workout @ r22.

you are asking for it, you don,t have pb s Only best times, your pb s should be way faster.
Don,t know how she trains, but her 5/6k could be a lot faster, no doubt.

hjs wrote:
you are asking for it, you don,t have pb s Only best times, your pb s should be way faster.
Don,t know how she trains, but her 5/6k could be a lot faster, no doubt.

My 2k was a proper (bloody hard) test to PB if you remember?... albeit, done in the much earlier phases of my erging journey

Maybe after a couple more months of my current interval work plan, i will have another pop at a 2k and see where i am

Anth_F wrote:

hjs wrote:
you are asking for it, you don,t have pb s Only best times, your pb s should be way faster.
Don,t know how she trains, but her 5/6k could be a lot faster, no doubt.

My 2k was a proper (bloody hard) test to PB if you remember?... albeit, done in the much earlier phases of my erging journey

Maybe after a couple more months of my current interval work plan, i will have another pop at a 2k and see where i am

Just kidding, don,t remember, you simply train very alround with no specific rowing goal, which is perfectly fine.
For a sharp 2k one needs hard interval work for a while, you never done so, so you don,t have a pb .
Thats more my personal definition, it only counts if I work for it and give it a 100%.
Same for a handle down, not just finishing is enough, it needs to be paced without a slowdown, slowing down at some point is a down. But thats me not you/others

hjs wrote:
Just kidding, don,t remember, you simply train very alround with no specific rowing goal, which is perfectly fine.
For a sharp 2k one needs hard interval work for a while, you never done so, so you don,t have a pb .
Thats more my personal definition, it only counts if I work for it and give it a 100%.
Same for a handle down, not just finishing is enough, it needs to be paced without a slowdown, slowing down at some point is a down. But thats me not you/others

You are right, Henry. I have now switched things up a bit with my training, i have implemented much more interval work to get me sharper and used to doing faster paces etc, and the pain of course. I am starting to like that feeling of digging deep which i never did like before

I also now like the idea of getting in a quick hard workout, sure it can hurt some times but i'm in and out in no time.

Safris wrote:If I pull a 2:04 for 5000m but then bring my split down to a 1:52 for the last 1000, what will my final time be? 19y old hvwt female, first 6k test. 2k PB 7:14

As stated earlier many times strategy should be with more or less even splits. If you are saving for 10sec/500m improvement on the last km you are not giving your best.
I did 7:13 2K PB last week and yesterday 19:23 5K (also PB, 1:56.2 pace). 5K was easier than the 2K but probably not really
far from my current potential.

I am generally better at short distances.

With the above in mind I would think that you should be able to push for a better time - with a good strategy.

kerosene wrote:

Safris wrote:If I pull a 2:04 for 5000m but then bring my split down to a 1:52 for the last 1000, what will my final time be? 19y old hvwt female, first 6k test. 2k PB 7:14

As stated earlier many times strategy should be with more or less even splits. If you are saving for 10sec/500m improvement on the last km you are not giving your best.
I did 7:13 2K PB last week and yesterday 19:23 5K (also PB, 1:56.2 pace). 5K was easier than the 2K but probably not really
far from my current potential.

I am generally better at short distances.

With the above in mind I would think that you should be able to push for a better time - with a good strategy.

You really want to negative split the 6K, rather than plodding for 5K then sprinting when you're tired. Your current plan won't get a 24'24" time because you're not going to make the 1:52 pace for that last 1K. You may not even be able to sustain the 2:04 pace if you're not training for endurance.

Get some sane numbers for 1K, 2K, and 10K feed them into the magic at: http://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum/ ... -predictor and you may get a valid 6K prediction from it.

Anth_F wrote:

hjs wrote:
you are asking for it, you don,t have pb s Only best times, your pb s should be way faster.
Don,t know how she trains, but her 5/6k could be a lot faster, no doubt.

My 2k was a proper (bloody hard) test to PB if you remember?... albeit, done in the much earlier phases of my erging journey

Maybe after a couple more months of my current interval work plan, i will have another pop at a 2k and see where i am

Just based on your last 500 interval set, I believe were all in the 1:47 at R26 you could EASILY beat your previous 2K PB. You would be knocking on the <7:00 door at a free rate.

kini62 wrote:

Anth_F wrote:
My 2k was a proper (bloody hard) test to PB if you remember?... albeit, done in the much earlier phases of my erging journey

Maybe after a couple more months of my current interval work plan, i will have another pop at a 2k and see where i am

Just based on your last 500 interval set, I believe were all in the 1:47 at R26 you could EASILY beat your previous 2K PB. You would be knocking on the <7:00 door at a free rate.

Glad someone here remembers my 2k PB

Once i can get down to knocking out 8x500m on 2:30r @ 1:45' avg, i'll do a 2k test. No idea how long that will take me to get there, but training is certainly not a race, so all in good time. The 8x500m 2:30r was a perfect predictor on my first 2k test.

I don't talk much, if at all, about specific goals on the erg, but i do have a secret underlying desire to go 7mins or sub 7' 2k at some point.