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Hi:

I need somebody help about something that is happening in my present. I was fit and healthy. I bought a concept to rower (novemeber 2016), saw some videos and them I started using the rower. Sometime I felt like some nails in my mid-upper back but, I a "fit guy", I continued my cross training. My workouts consist on: pull-ups, weighted pull-ups, bench press, dumbbells for bicep, tire flips, etc. One day (february 13, 2017). I made a hard training and end with pull-ups (like 70). After that I feel "good" and said: let do some HIIT on the rower. So I put on level 10 (biggest mistake ever ) and make 10 intervals (1min slow / 30sec hard). The day after I feel a sharp pain in my mid-back, very sharp. So the hell started. A doctor used a local injection in my right mid-upper back area (nothing happen). I has a x-rays (no bone damage). Them an MRI (no disk damage, just a spasm. Them I tried to make some workouts and up today I cant. The pain went low but If I make pullups or rowing machine, them, it come back. Im desperate because I cant make my daily workout like in the past. Three months with minimal action. Im thinking sell my rower machine so this forum is my last hope to see if this pain is going to heal some day. I included a picture of the area. I want to make a video rowing to see if my form is trash. Any comments is welcome. I have a picure but I cant upload here.

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pull-ups, weighted pull-ups, bench press, dumbbells for bicep, tire flips, etc. HIIT on the rower. So I put on level 10

Looks more like suicide than work-out. Experts on weights no doubt can tell you which of the above are more likely to tear your ribs apart.

Take a few months off until your back cures. Keep walking, 10k a day will get you fit.

Then learn to row with your legs, with no drag at all: hams and quads with plenty of length but low force. Even 100W (or 1 to 1½ W/kg) for an hour will get you fit and keep you out of the rain.

At low effort very little can go wrong in the legs, they're designed for hard work. But backs have all sorts of small details that cause problems (my sports doc has a wall chart that mentions 800 types of backache).

Try another doctor?

Find a physio that does sports injury / massage.

You've a very muscular back - you might need someone who knows what they're doing to get their thumbs in there and rearrange things a bit.

We scoff at it in 'The West' but acupuncture works as well. Better than some doctor pumping cortisone in you or whatever.

And take it easy a bit - you don't need to go balls out - yanking away with the slider at max doesn't mean you're getting a better workout than if you used proper technique with the slider at 4.

Best wishes for a full recovery.

jamesg wrote:

pull-ups, weighted pull-ups, bench press, dumbbells for bicep, tire flips, etc. HIIT on the rower. So I put on level 10

Looks more like suicide than work-out. Experts on weights no doubt can tell you which of the above are more likely to tear your ribs apart.

Take a few months off until your back cures. Keep walking, 10k a day will get you fit.

Then learn to row with your legs, with no drag at all: hams and quads with plenty of length but low force. Even 100W (or 1 to 1½ W/kg) for an hour will get you fit and keep you out of the rain.

At low effort very little can go wrong in the legs, they're designed for hard work. But backs have all sorts of small details that cause problems (my sports doc has a wall chart that mentions 800 types of backache).

Ofcourse, everything which is not slow and long is stupid.

You are injured, that can take long sometimes. Patience, it has nothing to do with rowing itself.
It will heal, but slowly.. Do other work that not works the sore spot.

paul45 wrote:

hjs wrote:You are injured, that can take long sometimes. Patience, it has nothing to do with rowing itself.
It will heal, but slowly.. Do other work that not works the sore spot.

Hi Henry, it was this line he wrote/


After that I feel "good" and said: let do some HIIT on the rower. So I put on level 10 (biggest mistake ever ) and make 10 intervals (1min slow / 30sec hard). The day after I feel a sharp pain in my mid-back, very sharp.

You can get injured doing everything..... He simply overdid it. His training looks not focussed, just trying to get tired..... Thats the main reason.

Thanks for the inputs. Sorry guy but I dont know what is DF. Which routine can I make with the concpet? Where a can find a video showing good technics?.

My background, I was obese for 8 years 245 and lose 65 pounds doing crosstraining
(10 months). For those who pass through obesity know that we never want go back. But I overtraining a lot and paid the price. My rest heart rate is 48 because in every seccion I made a good intensity cardio and weights. So I want to use the cardio part because I like and put the weights 1 step away. I want to use the concept, good form, and not sell it. Thanks you for all.

For DF - try this: http://www.concept2.com/company/search? ... rag+factor

Where a can find a video showing good technics

http://www.concept2.com/indoor-rowers/t ... que-videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pf84O5cTWY4

At least, I found a video on youtube with he basic technics explained. My problem was the catch. I was pulling with my arms, not my leg. Other thing that I was making wrong was the stroke rate. I was in 28 and know Im doing 22-23. I made 4km and my mid-upper back is fine. Thanks all for you comments.

Video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVmMd7FdAA
PD: I read a lot of people saying about wrong technics in every video I saw. From olympian people to regular people. So Im just looking a balance jejejejeje

Jesmanuel wrote:I made a hard training and end with pull-ups (like 70).

Glad back is feeling better so drifting off topic.... What is the secret to 70 pull-ups?? Have added these to workout past two months. Slow progress and now my shoulders get sore during any rowing session. sigh