New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » February 16th, 2021, 5:14 am

Meek wrote:
February 15th, 2021, 1:28 pm
PB (attempt) day. Decided on 5k. Paced it pretty well. 18:28. Pleased I can edit my signature again.
Congrats on the new PB. Be great to see the splits etc
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
February 12th, 2021, 8:19 am
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I don't know why, but I had an urge to do an FM. I expected a 2:48 result, at best, given my recent sessions, a bad night's sleep, and a 4/10 HRV. Some days just don't follow the rule book, and I think this is a 1 minute 42 second PB.

Annoyingly I didn't have any wobbles, so I could have gone faster. I really expected it to get messy with circa 7k to go, but it just didn't happen. I didn't even want to stop, and a 2:43 is in my sights with some more normal preparation.

Very happy with this, but that won't last for long. I have far too restless satisfaction, and I'm trying to grab what I can whilst I'm still improving.
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » February 16th, 2021, 11:55 am

iangallagher wrote:
February 15th, 2021, 12:42 am
6km TT today. Was meant to be a rest day particularly after the 30R20 yesterday but i had no aches or pains so thought why not

24 second PB in the end and no real hiccups. Enjoying this vein of form whilst it lasts. The overall average is also better than my current 5km PB so that will need to be addressed next.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:31.4 6,000m 1:42.6 324 1414 28
3:26.4 1,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 28
3:25.8 2,000m 1:42.9 321 1405 28
3:26.7 3,000m 1:43.3 317 1391 29
3:26.4 4,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 28
3:27.0 5,000m 1:43.5 316 1386 28
3:18.9 6,000m 1:39.4 356 1524 31
Awesome work....sub 17 5K is there for you.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iangallagher » February 16th, 2021, 5:17 pm

KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:55 am
iangallagher wrote:
February 15th, 2021, 12:42 am
6km TT today. Was meant to be a rest day particularly after the 30R20 yesterday but i had no aches or pains so thought why not

24 second PB in the end and no real hiccups. Enjoying this vein of form whilst it lasts. The overall average is also better than my current 5km PB so that will need to be addressed next.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
20:31.4 6,000m 1:42.6 324 1414 28
3:26.4 1,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 28
3:25.8 2,000m 1:42.9 321 1405 28
3:26.7 3,000m 1:43.3 317 1391 29
3:26.4 4,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 28
3:27.0 5,000m 1:43.5 316 1386 28
3:18.9 6,000m 1:39.4 356 1524 31
Awesome work....sub 17 5K is there for you.
Thanks Keith. Yeah, i have the belief now. This workout and the RowMania one has shown me that i can do it. I'll do a few more sessions just to shut the chimp up then will give it a go.
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am

KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by gouldilocks » February 17th, 2021, 11:07 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am
KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
Having a look at your recent training results I would guess that you are capable of a 100km time in the 6:45 - 7:05 range - you certainly appear to have the right mindset and the miles in your legs to have a good go at the record - just a word of caution : don't leave your best efforts on the training ground - you are doing a really high volume of training at the moment at what appears to be a reasonably high intensity.
Best of luck for when you get round to it - I think you have a good shot at it(Does the current record belong to Graeme Todd?)

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100m - 15.0, 2k - 6:46.7, 5k - 17:37.2
HM - 1:19:21.5, FM - 2:47:40
200km - 18:28:30 24hr - 251621m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by faach1 » February 17th, 2021, 11:38 am

gouldilocks wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 11:07 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am
KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
Having a look at your recent training results I would guess that you are capable of a 100km time in the 6:45 - 7:05 range - you certainly appear to have the right mindset and the miles in your legs to have a good go at the record - just a word of caution : don't leave your best efforts on the training ground - you are doing a really high volume of training at the moment at what appears to be a reasonably high intensity.
Best of luck for when you get round to it - I think you have a good shot at it(Does the current record belong to Graeme Todd?)

Paul G
From C2 website:
Male 40-49 Hwt Grahame Todd 2007 6:51:51.0
Interestingly enough the 40-49 LWT British record 100k by Keith Darby is quicker. I guess this might have something to do with him having to move less body mass up and down the slide?
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by gouldilocks » February 17th, 2021, 12:12 pm

faach1 wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 11:38 am

From C2 website:
Male 40-49 Hwt Grahame Todd 2007 6:51:51.0
Interestingly enough the 40-49 LWT British record 100k by Keith Darby is quicker. I guess this might have something to do with him having to move less body mass up and down the slide?
Quite possible.There is very little difference in the HWT and LWT records for the long distance stuff in most of the age groups.

I remember meeting Grahame when he came to support us when we were doing a 24-hr row.
We had a spare erg and supporters were coming along and doing hour sessions alongside us.
Grahame did 2 sessions I think - about 15000m @ R20 or thereabout for each one and making it look very easy :roll: :roll: .
Very good rower and a really nice guy to boot- not massive ( about 6ft and 85ish kgs) but very strong.

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100m - 15.0, 2k - 6:46.7, 5k - 17:37.2
HM - 1:19:21.5, FM - 2:47:40
200km - 18:28:30 24hr - 251621m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » February 17th, 2021, 12:28 pm

gouldilocks wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 11:07 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am
KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
Having a look at your recent training results I would guess that you are capable of a 100km time in the 6:45 - 7:05 range - you certainly appear to have the right mindset and the miles in your legs to have a good go at the record - just a word of caution : don't leave your best efforts on the training ground - you are doing a really high volume of training at the moment at what appears to be a reasonably high intensity.
Best of luck for when you get round to it - I think you have a good shot at it(Does the current record belong to Graeme Todd?)

Paul G
Thanks Paul. Grahame is a Team Oarsome team mate so I've got a bit of added incentive! He is still smashing out ridiculous metres: he did 771k for the Holiday Challenge.

I'm going through that exact thought process right now: am I just procrastinating or do I still need to get prepared? I need to ease off a little bit atm, as I think I'm pushing it slightly too hard, but I've always liked the idea of making training hard, so the event isn't as much of a shock. I tried to do a 100k last May and it all fell apart at about 48k, but I'm in a far better place this time round, and I've learnt a lot more since then.

Keith Darby is a force of nature, and manages to smash out amazing results at all distances.

I've always toyed with the idea of a 24hr challenge, but I don't think I've got the courage to endure that kind of discomfort. Maybe I will, but I probably won't 😅
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » February 17th, 2021, 12:49 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am
KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
Hope you do go for the 100K record that would be awesome.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by faach1 » February 17th, 2021, 12:57 pm

KeithT wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 12:49 pm
Dangerscouse wrote:
February 17th, 2021, 2:31 am
KeithT wrote:
February 16th, 2021, 11:52 am
Commented on this on FB but had to say again what an amazing and inspiring row...and you can do even better! I love that you aren't satisfied for long, I do the same but I think it's a good trait for Erging.
Thanks mate. My ultimate goal is still the 100k, and I'm now wondering if the British record is possible (6:51.51). It's my only chance of getting a record so I might as well give it a go. My current 100k PB was about as badly prepared as it is possible to do, so I know that knocking off 50 mins shouldn't be too difficult.

The satisfaction always gets twitchy as I start thinking; if I can do that pace, then surely I can squeeze out a bit more. I can always identify moments of weakness, even if they are quite short
Hope you do go for the 100K record that would be awesome.
Ditto Keith!
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » February 19th, 2021, 4:56 am

Continuing to mine the "Tour de SkiErg" newby gains seam.

2k PB.

7:43.8 2,000m 1:55.9 225 1072 40

1:56.8 500m 1:56.8 220 1055 37
1:56.8 1,000m 1:56.8 220 1055 39
1:56.6 1,500m 1:56.6 221 1059 41
1:53.6 2,000m 1:53.6 239 1121 44

Looks like I knew what I was doing! Tough and had to spend some time lying down after, but I didn't have that all-consuming vomit-inducing muscle-burning lactate accumulation. Probably could have gone a bit quicker, then. :roll:

Had half an eye on trying to be within a minute of Henry's amazing time, but didn't quite make that. Comparisons are the thief of joy and all that, but this is by a country mile my best SkiErg effort.
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Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » February 19th, 2021, 5:13 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
February 19th, 2021, 4:56 am
Continuing to mine the "Tour de SkiErg" newby gains seam.

2k PB.

7:43.8 2,000m 1:55.9 225 1072 40

1:56.8 500m 1:56.8 220 1055 37
1:56.8 1,000m 1:56.8 220 1055 39
1:56.6 1,500m 1:56.6 221 1059 41
1:53.6 2,000m 1:53.6 239 1121 44

Looks like I knew what I was doing! Tough and had to spend some time lying down after, but I didn't have that all-consuming vomit-inducing muscle-burning lactate accumulation. Probably could have gone a bit quicker, then. :roll:

Had half an eye on trying to be within a minute of Henry's amazing time, but didn't quite make that. Comparisons are the thief of joy and all that, but this is by a country mile my best SkiErg effort.
Nice one Max and indeed a good bit better than your 5k, so you are rapidly improving, and so you should :wink: Over time you will be able to rate higher.
I have the same as you, I look at others, and think how the hell can they be so much faster :D

Re ski month, this is a good way of forcing you/us to dig in. Having a goal helps to push yourself.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by faach1 » February 19th, 2021, 5:14 am

hjs wrote:
February 19th, 2021, 5:13 am
max_ratcliffe wrote:
February 19th, 2021, 4:56 am
Continuing to mine the "Tour de SkiErg" newby gains seam.

2k PB.

7:43.8 2,000m 1:55.9 225 1072 40

1:56.8 500m 1:56.8 220 1055 37
1:56.8 1,000m 1:56.8 220 1055 39
1:56.6 1,500m 1:56.6 221 1059 41
1:53.6 2,000m 1:53.6 239 1121 44

Looks like I knew what I was doing! Tough and had to spend some time lying down after, but I didn't have that all-consuming vomit-inducing muscle-burning lactate accumulation. Probably could have gone a bit quicker, then. :roll:

Had half an eye on trying to be within a minute of Henry's amazing time, but didn't quite make that. Comparisons are the thief of joy and all that, but this is by a country mile my best SkiErg effort.
Nice one Max and indeed a good bit better than your 5k, so you are rapidly improving, and so you should :wink: Over time you will be able to rate higher.
I have the same as you, I look at others, and think how the hell can they be so much faster :D

Re ski month, this is a good way of forcing you/us to dig in. Having a goal helps to push yourself.
Well done Max, nice gains.

Who do you think is mostly likely to win TDS with out knowing Clapp’s 2k submission?
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » February 19th, 2021, 5:28 am

faach1 wrote:
February 19th, 2021, 5:14 am


Well done Max, nice gains.

Who do you think is mostly likely to win TDS with out knowing Clapp’s 2k submission?
Think Freddy Sm. Don’t expect Clapp to break the 2k Wr and on the 10k I also don’t expect a big gap.

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