6:28 2K

[ranger]

Wish me luck!

Who needs luck when he has an incredibly unmatchable amount of foundational training?

Everyone needs (more than) a little luck to pull off something like what I am attempting.

ranger

[eliotsmith]

To those who care about scientific stats and such for determining reality, consider this: http://www.pponline.co.uk/encyc/0261.htm

I prefer to remember that any "evidence" in our world today is mixed up with the concept of "averages". This is ridiculous. As the above article might startle us to hear, each man is never the hypothetical average man. Ranger or anyone else could continue to perform at the same level as when younger and buck the trend. Statisticians would call this an anomaly. However, each person is an anomaly!

I do wish you luck in your goal for a 6:16, ranger. I just wish you would shut up until then! I mean, the repetitiveness of your posts makes it so I want to skim or skip them before even reading the first line. I think I know what is coming and believe many feel the same. Say something original, post your training for the day, ask a question (something I think you have never done on this forum besides in a sarcastic tone), praise another, critique another, etc. But for the love of the god of rowing, stop posting the same damn stuff day after day.

[ranger]

I do wish you luck

Thanks.

Best of luck to you, too.

Sure, postings will be more exciting and varied when I start racing my workouts like everyone else.

Good training is pretty routine--same old, same old.

Why even report it?

Racing is news.

ranger

[bloomp]

Wish me luck!

Who needs luck when he has an incredibly unmatchable amount of foundational training?

Everyone needs (more than) a little luck to pull off something like what I am attempting.

ranger

I am a firm believer that you make your own luck. I am relatively sure it was the men's head coach at Wisconsin that said he forces his athletes to take off anything they consider 'lucky' before a erg test. Just removes the idea that you need to be in one situation with the one perfect setup to perform well. With proper training, you should always be able to perform well.

So have you made your own fortune? We'll see.

[Byron Drachman]

I found Ranger's postings particularly valuable this morning. Does anyone else do the scrambled word game? In the puzzle there is a list of four words, but each word has the letters in a different order so you don't necessarily see what the word is at first. You re-arrange the letters to form the word, and after you have unscrambled those four words, you then take letters from those words to form a saying.

Along with the sudoku puzzle, I like to do that puzzle with breakfast. Anyway, I had just read the usual Ranger stuff about the 6:16 2K coming soon, how he now knows how to row, five years of foundational tranining, etc. One of the scrambled words this morning was ODITI. The solution instantly popped into my mind, thanks to Ranger.

[snowleopard]

One of the scrambled words this morning was ODITI. The solution instantly popped into my mind, thanks to Ranger.

Even in its scrambled form, phonetically at least, it's a fair summary.

[ranger]

Wish me luck!

Who needs luck when he has an incredibly unmatchable amount of foundational training?

"Incredibly unmatchable"?

Not at all.

It would only take five years or so to match my foundational training.

Clearly, there aren't many in and around this forum who are interested in that sort of investment of time and energy, though.

Moment time.

If it can't be done in a few weeks on your lunch break, what good is it?

RACE!

Waddya get?

RACE!

Waddya get?

RACE!

Waddya get?

I feel sick.

I'm tired all the time.

I'm sick and tired of not getting any better.

You're injured, too?

I quit.

And so it goes.

Indoor rowing as we now know it.

ranger

[ranger]

Who needs luck when he has an incredibly unmatchable amount of foundational training?

Everyone needs (more than) a little luck to pull off something like what I am attempting.

ranger

I am a firm believer that you make your own luck. I am relatively sure it was the men's head coach at Wisconsin that said he forces his athletes to take off anything they consider 'lucky' before a erg test. Just removes the idea that you need to be in one situation with the one perfect setup to perform well. With proper training, you should always be able to perform well.

So have you made your own fortune? We'll see.

I didn't mean that kind of luck.

I meant things like planes not taking off, deaths in the family, random infection, etc.

I suspect that what I am attempting is somewhat different from what you are pointing at, too.

Training a 60-year-old lightweight for a 6:16 2K is not quite the same as just showing up for another sorry erg test that you do the same sorry way you always have.

ranger

[bloomp]

Everyone needs (more than) a little luck to pull off something like what I am attempting.

ranger

I am a firm believer that you make your own luck. I am relatively sure it was the men's head coach at Wisconsin that said he forces his athletes to take off anything they consider 'lucky' before a erg test. Just removes the idea that you need to be in one situation with the one perfect setup to perform well. With proper training, you should always be able to perform well.

So have you made your own fortune? We'll see.

I didn't mean that kind of luck.

I meant things like planes not taking off, deaths in the family, random infection, etc.

I suspect that what I am attempting is somewhat different from what you are pointing at, too.

Training a 60-year-old lightweight for a 6:16 2K is not quite the same as just showing up for another sorry erg test that you do the same sorry way you always have.

ranger

Same sorry erg test? Boy, watch your mouth. I actually DON'T pussy out of an erg test or race. And why would you care about a death in the family? You've clearly spent way too much time exercising over the past five years to have a healthy relationship with anyone. Unless you haven't actually done that much. And that isn't "lucky" that someone doesn't die, that's just how things happen. The "luck" you speak of is how you react to it. If setting this WR really matters to you, then a) I'm sure the deceased would understand you going to Boston instead of their funeral and b) you should respect your own work enough to prioritize.

And wouldn't it be convenient if you got 'sick' the week before CIRC, WIRC, etc. Hell, I'm imagining a post with something like "my daughter got really sick, almost died, can't make it, but my 6:16 would have been the most epic accomplishment even though I still haven't made it happen."

Rich, my final point. You're not 60. You have well over a year until you are. Stop acting like this has happened a year and a half in the future. Because you have not and will never pull a 6:16 2k. That's not nay-saying, that's the reality of the erg. The 'truth' machine. You refuse to prove in ANY way that you are capable of it, and no proof equals no reason for us to show care. Nay saying is not what we do, nay saying is you telling me I'll never row 90' at 1:50.

[snowleopard]

And wouldn't it be convenient if you got 'sick' the week before CIRC, WIRC, etc. Hell, I'm imagining a post with something like "my daughter got really sick, almost died, can't make it, but my 6:16 would have been the most epic accomplishment even though I still haven't made it happen."

Oh he's been there and done that already. UK forumites were treated to the famous broken finger episode. And I believe there was some complicated dental work and simultaneous melanoma treatment that led to his retirement from erging for that season.

The so-called retirement lasted almost a week before he was back on the forum spouting the same old guff.

And no, I'm not making it up.

[Steve G]

You missed out flying to the UK in 2004 for the British Indoor Rowing Champs, warming up and deciding his stroke wasn't ready. he watched the race from the stands!

[ranger]

You've clearly spent way too much time exercising over the past five years to have a healthy relationship with anyone.

I only sleep five hours.

If you sleep nine, I sleep and exercise in the same time as you sleep.

So you don't have any more time for relationships than I do.

I will exercise about four hours a day for the rest of my life.

Makes you feel great, especially at 60.

About the role of physical exercise in life and the nature of "healthy relationships," get back to me when you are 60, feel like a 30-year-old and are poised to break the 40s lwt WR, have worked for 40 years, have been married for 35 years, and have raised three children.

You don't know what you are talking about, son.

All of my children are older than you.

ranger

[ranger]

you have not and will never pull a 6:16 2k. That's not nay-saying, that's the reality of the erg. The 'truth' machine.

I suppose we'll soon see, won't we?

A FM @ 1:48 predicts a 6:16 2K.

A HM @ 1:45 predicts a 6:16 2K.

60min @ 1:44 predicts a 6:16 2K.

What you can do for 2K is determined long before you sharpen and race.

It is determined by your effectiveness and efficiency in UT rowing, both UT2 and UT1.

These distance goals (FM, HM, 60min) are 8.5-11.2 seconds per 500m faster than any 60s lwt has ever rowed.

ranger

[bloomp]

you have not and will never pull a 6:16 2k. That's not nay-saying, that's the reality of the erg. The 'truth' machine.

I suppose we'll soon see, won't we?

A FM @ 1:48 predicts a 6:16 2K.

A HM @ 1:45 predicts a 6:16 2K.

60min @ 1:44 predicts a 6:16 2K.

What you can do for 2K is determined long before you sharpen and race.

It is determined by your effectiveness and efficiency in UT rowing, both UT2 and UT1.

These goals are 8.5-11.2 seconds per 500m faster than any 60s lwt has ever rowed.

ranger

Yes, but you're forgetting one thing. YOU HAVENT DONE ANY OF THAT! NOTHING. And you're running out of time. Sharpening starts next month you cretin, and you've posted zero distance trials.

[KevJGK]

I didn't mean that kind of luck.

I meant things like planes not taking off, deaths in the family, random infection, etc.

I suspect that what I am attempting is somewhat different from what you are pointing at, too.

Training a 60-year-old lightweight for a 6:16 2K is not quite the same as just showing up for another sorry erg test that you do the same sorry way you always have.

ranger

Same sorry erg test? Boy, watch your mouth. I actually DON'T pussy out of an erg test or race. And why would you care about a death in the family? You've clearly spent way too much time exercising over the past five years to have a healthy relationship with anyone. Unless you haven't actually done that much. And that isn't "lucky" that someone doesn't die, that's just how things happen. The "luck" you speak of is how you react to it. If setting this WR really matters to you, then a) I'm sure the deceased would understand you going to Boston instead of their funeral and b) you should respect your own work enough to prioritize.

And wouldn't it be convenient if you got 'sick' the week before CIRC, WIRC, etc. Hell, I'm imagining a post with something like "my daughter got really sick, almost died, can't make it, but my 6:16 would have been the most epic accomplishment even though I still haven't made it happen."

Rich, my final point. You're not 60. You have well over a year until you are. Stop acting like this has happened a year and a half in the future. Because you have not and will never pull a 6:16 2k. That's not nay-saying, that's the reality of the erg. The 'truth' machine. You refuse to prove in ANY way that you are capable of it, and no proof equals no reason for us to show care. Nay saying is not what we do, nay saying is you telling me I'll never row 90' at 1:50.

It’s worth remembering that when we respond to ranger we are dealing with a troll. He knows full well that he has no hope of a 06:40 let alone a 06:30. The 06:16 thing is of course pure fantasy. ranger posts purely to get a reaction. Some recent replies are exactly what he is after.

Corresponding with ranger always reminds me of the saying: “I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it."

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