Well done, you should do another 2k next week as I agree you can take more time off with more suitable preparation. Racing starts and enforced race times aren't easy to manageboomingaway wrote: ↑June 27th, 2020, 7:53 amI wanted to post a bad day, since I usually post the good. I did 7:41 7 weeks ago at a drag factor of 110, where I fell apart in the last 500m. Lungs were okay, but arms and legs couldn't hang on. This time, the target was sub 7:20 at the BRVC which I thought I was 95% to get. On Monday, I did a 4 minute piece at 1:48.9 where my ending HR was 184 (max is over 200 while running, 191 while rowing). It felt comfortable.
Today, my race was at 11:40 and I always exercise before breakfast. I had a big breakfast and then did the Eddie Fletcher warm up (which I also did on Monday). It felt REALLY hard today though and I was worried. It was hotter than usual and I started worrying that I tapered too much. Anyway, sub 1:50 or bust. So the race began and I did everything I could to keep it sub 1:50. First 500m were fine, but my HR was already at 182 which was worrying. It was at 174 after 500m of the 4 minute piece. With 500m to go, I just fell apart and couldn't hang on. My legs were burning and again like the last 2k I felt my legs give away rather than my lungs.
After the race, I felt dizzy and nearly fainted and felt like throwing up. It took me 30 minutes to get back to normal. I've done intense 100% effort pieces before and this is not normal for me. If I had to guess what happened today, I would guess the big breakfast and the heat played its part.
I used a drag factor of 125 today (used 130 for the 4 minute piece). It might have just been a bad day. 18 second PB though. I have no doubt that if I had just done my 2k on Monday, I would have gone at least 7:18.
7:23.4 2,000m 1:50.8 257 1184 29 186
1:49.9 500m 1:49.9 264 1207 31 182
1:49.7 1,000m 1:49.7 265 1212 30 186
1:50.0 1,500m 1:50.0 263 1205 29 188
1:53.8 2,000m 1:53.8 237 1117 28 188
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51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Very good result, and your fast last 250m is a very promising signoliverpt wrote: ↑June 27th, 2020, 4:18 pmHey guys,
I've done two 2k time trials before, but I had never taken a shot at a 1k. Did my first 1k time trial on the erg today, and I was really happy with the result.
Time Meters Pace S/M
3:09.3 1,000m 1:34.6 33
:47.7 250m 1:35.4 34
:47.2 500m 1:34.4 33
:47.8 750m 1:35.6 33
:46.5 1,000m 1:33.0 32
This also gives me the confidence with the doubling the distance +5 seconds/500m rule, that I could potentially crack 6:40 on a 2k soon (as +5 would put me at 1:39.6/500m or a 6:38-6:39). This would be a great PB for me given that my previous best was 6:49 (a little over a month ago). I'm most likely going to do that 2k next weekend, so I'm very excited!
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Another whopper mate, but I can't say I'm surprised. Your plateau in progress has been delayed until 2022iangallagher wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 12:45 amThought I’d try my luck with 5km again today. After yesterdays 2km I convinced myself that 5km at a considerably slower than 2km pace should feel ok.
Target was 1.44 and a fast start to get under average, focussing on keeping rate high.
Last time splits 3 and 4 were my slowest by quite a bit so I really wanted to hold pace through that section and I knew If I could then the result was there for the taking.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:14.7 5,000m 1:43.4 316 1387 31
3:26.0 1,000m 1:43.0 320 1402 29
3:27.3 2,000m 1:43.6 314 1381 30
3:27.0 3,000m 1:43.5 316 1386 31
3:27.8 4,000m 1:43.9 312 1373 32
3:26.7 5,000m 1:43.3 317 1391 34
I think that’s it now for time trials for a few weeks. Work is going to be mental for quite a bit so I’ll just work on building my base
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Wow...that is some 5k Ian ... basically my 2k pace . All relative I knowiangallagher wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 12:45 amThought I’d try my luck with 5km again today. After yesterdays 2km I convinced myself that 5km at a considerably slower than 2km pace should feel ok.
Target was 1.44 and a fast start to get under average, focussing on keeping rate high.
Last time splits 3 and 4 were my slowest by quite a bit so I really wanted to hold pace through that section and I knew If I could then the result was there for the taking.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:14.7 5,000m 1:43.4 316 1387 31
3:26.0 1,000m 1:43.0 320 1402 29
3:27.3 2,000m 1:43.6 314 1381 30
3:27.0 3,000m 1:43.5 316 1386 31
3:27.8 4,000m 1:43.9 312 1373 32
3:26.7 5,000m 1:43.3 317 1391 34
I think that’s it now for time trials for a few weeks. Work is going to be mental for quite a bit so I’ll just work on building my base
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PB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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Very good result mate, and that low HR tells a story that you can go quite a lot fasterwinniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Well done Alex, the FM is a big achievement! As Stu said, with this low AHR an unrestricted effort will be a good bit fasterwinniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
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Well done Alexwinniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
Great first FM and getting through without doing yourself a mischief also a good result!
After your 35km I had no doubts you could push on the extra 7k.
56M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, 34.2k OTW 3:52:00, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, 34.2k OTW 3:52:00, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!
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Well done Alex,winniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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Very low HR too, which no doubt will pay dividends once medical issues are resolved.
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PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Superb effort Ian. Out of interest, what drag factor are you using?iangallagher wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 12:45 amThought I’d try my luck with 5km again today. After yesterdays 2km I convinced myself that 5km at a considerably slower than 2km pace should feel ok.
Target was 1.44 and a fast start to get under average, focussing on keeping rate high.
Last time splits 3 and 4 were my slowest by quite a bit so I really wanted to hold pace through that section and I knew If I could then the result was there for the taking.
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:14.7 5,000m 1:43.4 316 1387 31
3:26.0 1,000m 1:43.0 320 1402 29
3:27.3 2,000m 1:43.6 314 1381 30
3:27.0 3,000m 1:43.5 316 1386 31
3:27.8 4,000m 1:43.9 312 1373 32
3:26.7 5,000m 1:43.3 317 1391 34
I think that’s it now for time trials for a few weeks. Work is going to be mental for quite a bit so I’ll just work on building my base
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Well done Alex. I could not even think about doing a FM. Hope you are soon on to the shorter and faster stuff.winniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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Nice, the FM is no joke and a big accomplishment.winniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
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Hahahamax_ratcliffe wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 9:11 amWell done Alex,
Respect for anybody insane... I mean, erm, determined... enough to do 3hrs+ in one go.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Great session, well done. Plenty more to come by the looks of it.winniewinser wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:28 amPB by default today as I got through my first Full Marathon unscathed. The new Citius Remex seat pad really worked well and I was relatively comfortable. I did have to make a loo stop around 24k but no other issues. Jelly babies and banana for energy and plenty of salty juice.
I would probably do this again unrestricted when my HR issues are resolved. For now I'll get back to my own plan. Pleased to get it under 2:15 and felt ok for a bit of a blast at the end to get it done quicker.
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
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Are you going to celebrate your 2k PB?....it deserves a mentionDangerscouse wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:39 amVery good result mate, and that low HR tells a story that you can go quite a lot faster
MartinSH4321 wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 8:47 amWell done Alex, the FM is a big achievement! As Stu said, with this low AHR an unrestricted effort will be a good bit faster
max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 9:11 amWell done Alex,
Respect for anybody insane... I mean, erm, determined... enough to do 3hrs+ in one go.
Very low HR too, which no doubt will pay dividends once medical issues are resolved.
philjoakley wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 11:21 amWell done Alex. I could not even think about doing a FM. Hope you are soon on to the shorter and faster stuff.
Thanks all, really appreciate the kind words.nick rockliff wrote: ↑June 28th, 2020, 1:52 pmGreat session, well done. Plenty more to come by the looks of it.
Post FM headache kicked in within an hour of finishing and still hangs around now. Overall I feel OK just with slightly saw sitting bones/glutes.
I will be going after a sub 3hr at some point and also hoping to PB my HM.....just not this week
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