Pete Plan Summer 2015 starts June 14

[G-dub]

Well I saw the "7:05 on a good day" and 1:47 and thought he was saying "hey jack ass, stay at 1:47 and if you have something left you might be able to pull it down to 7:05 at the end". It actually was a good thing I misinterpreted anyway. Made the first 1200 meters much more pleasant since I stayed close to 1:47 on the first quarter!

Thanks for the training tip Henry. That makes sense to me.

[Edward4492]

Nice PR Glen! I'm just like you.. I really stress on the 2k's. There's a real mental block when there's a nasty round number out there like seven minutes. It's like the TT guys trying to go sub hour on a 40k time trial. Once you get past it.. all is well. I am taking some comic relief in the fact that I'm becoming known for quitting for 4 or 5 strokes (the Edward break!). But in all seriousness, it does give one a psychological fall back position to know they can take a very short breather then get back on it. I'm sure the best ergers in the world may be chuckling a bit. But I have the kids I coach practice doing this and it really eases the stress.

Anyway..... WELL DONE!

[Galeere]

Nice PR Glen! I'm just like you.. I really stress on the 2k's. There's a real mental block when there's a nasty round number out there like seven minutes. It's like the TT guys trying to go sub hour on a 40k time trial. Once you get past it.. all is well. I am taking some comic relief in the fact that I'm becoming known for quitting for 4 or 5 strokes (the Edward break!). But in all seriousness, it does give one a psychological fall back position to know they can take a very short breather then get back on it. I'm sure the best ergers in the world may be chuckling a bit. But I have the kids I coach practice doing this and it really eases the stress.

It works. I was afraid I woulnd´t find back in the rythm but I did and it helped a lot.

[G-dub]

I think it works best when you are sort of rewarding yourself with the break rather than requiring the break! I think once you let up due to bad feelings, you are toast. But if you are just gathering yourself for a big finish, different deal. But we do need to memorialize the Edward Break for sure. Or maybe it's called the edbreak.

[Bob S.]

I think it works best when you are sort of rewarding yourself with the break rather than requiring the break! I think once you let up due to bad feelings, you are toast. But if you are just gathering yourself for a big finish, different deal. But we do need to memorialize the Edward Break for sure. Or maybe it's called the edbreak.

Very much a mental thing. Not so much as what you are doing, but why you are doing it.

Bob S,

[Edward4492]

Words of wisdom from the master himself!

[f2d]

Phew, just finished the 4 x 2000 / 5:00 rest with an avg of 2:03.2 (I did the 5x1500 one @ 2:01.5)

That workout is just messed up. The extra 500 meters just makes each segment that much more brutal, and it forces me to row it much more conservatively.

[Galeere]

Phew, just finished the 4 x 2000 / 5:00 rest with an avg of 2:03.2 (I did the 5x1500 one @ 2:01.5)

That workout is just messed up. The extra 500 meters just makes each segment that much more brutal, and it forces me to row it much more conservatively.

Good job. Yeah, the 2k-workout is a killer and I went around a sec slower than for the 1.5ks.

[G-dub]

Good stuff f2d. That one seems like it's never going to end. Dang, I miss our little corner of the forum.

[f2d]

Good stuff f2d. That one seems like it's never going to end. Dang, I miss our little corner of the forum.

Yeah, you're also the one who had an issue with that one right?

For the 1500, you don't really start building up lactate until after you're done with 500 meters and have 3 digits to go. Having 4 digits to go when the pain starts kicking in is just killer..

[jackarabit]

Galeere writes re: 5x1.5 vs. 4x2:

Yeah, the 2k-workout is a killer and I went around a sec slower than for the 1.5ks.

Averaged 1.4" slower per split in my case. The real difference is 20' rest on 7.5k and 15' on 8k.

[f2d]

Galeere writes re: 5x1.5 vs. 4x2:

Yeah, the 2k-workout is a killer and I went around a sec slower than for the 1.5ks.

Averaged 1.4" slower per split in my case. The real difference is 20' rest on 7.5k and 15' on 8k.

That's better than mine.

I guess I just suck the longer the distance.

I can do 500 meters way faster than my 2K PB split would calculate to.

And yeah, that's a really good point. You're doing the 8k in less time overall than the 7.5k due to less rest.

Next week I'll be doing the 4x1000.. that one sounds especially rough since it's supposed to be at a fairly fast pace. The top of the speed pyramid was pretty tough.. and this is basically 4x that. I think we're all at least somewhat masochists to willingly do this every week

[jackarabit]

For the 1500, you don't really start building up lactate until after you're done with 500 meters and have 3 digits to go. Having 4 digits to go when the pain starts kicking in is just killer..

Now I get it. 999 and 1499, not 1000 and 1500. Much the way I see a HM. The curious numerology of pain.

[G-dub]

F2D - I'm like you, I'm better on the shorter and faster intervals. The first time doing the 4 x 2 and the 4 x 1 was a lot to handle mentally and physically. One of the challenges is to allow yourself to get better at them. I got hung up on the split I should be doing rather than the split I could do and crashed a little on each of those the first time. The second time through they were more manageable because we were more fit and we knew what to expect. I wouldn't worry about the split and focus on getting a great workout that is "tough but doable". Negative splitting also helps - do the first one at a manageable pace and then bite a little off of it if you can the next interval and so on. I also think the longer ones require a little more strategy within the interval too. So negative splitting the interval itself also helped me - I wanted to feel as food as I could (within the spirit and reality of the workout) at halfway to 3/4 or so of each interval and then push a little from there into the rest period.

[Bob S.]

It's been some time since I have used the Pete Plan, but as I remember it, the even interval sessions call for the last one to be the fastest. If it is not, you were too over optimistic on the first ones.