Pete Plan Summer 2015 starts June 14

[G-dub]

My 5K is old. Maybe January? Tomorrow for the 2 K I will use DF 110, which I've been using lately. And thanks for the support!

[Galeere]

In my opinion you should start at 1.45ish for the first .5k, take it easier for the following 1k @ 1.46.5 (the faster the better), remember Eds hd-remedy and give it all you got on the last .5k. Do the breath exercise, get some good rest prior to anything and grind some teeth while being at it. You can do it Glenn.

[G-dub]

Started Pete Plan 5K training: 3 x 2K

1st: 2:10 with some pops intermingled
2nd: 1:45.8 (7:03.4)
3rd: 2:30

Splits:
1: 1:46.7, 31 SPM (sorry Henry)
2: 1:46.1, 31 SPM
3: 1:46.0, 32 SPM
4: 144.7, 34 SPM

Thanks Guys. It feels great to have a new time. Henry, not sure if you meant to but you 1) made sure I was realistic and 2) got me just chapped enough to want to prove you wrong, while still keeping it real. Galeere and Jack, since we are on swan songs, I will miss the sharing. You are great mates. You too Magnus. Greg, let me know when you get it going in the fall, I would love to join you and get schooled - you gave our little band of warriors a level of Cred by joint in with your thoughts. Ed, thanks for the Edward Break. I used it with 600 to go for a 4-5 strokes. I'm not where I want to be yet but I suppose that's the beauty of it. I think I am going to try to PP 5K plan and get more going middle distance.

[Galeere]

Started Pete Plan 5K training: 3 x 2K

1st: 2:10 with some pops intermingled
2nd: 1:45.8 (7:03.4)
3rd: 2:30

Splits:
1: 1:46.7, 31 SPM (sorry Henry)
2: 1:46.1, 31 SPM
3: 1:46.0, 32 SPM
4: 144.7, 34 SPM

Thanks Guys. It feels great to have a new time. Henry, not sure if you meant to but you 1) made sure I was realistic and 2) got me just chapped enough to want to prove you wrong, while still keeping it real. Galeere and Jack, since we are on swan songs, I will miss the sharing. You are great mates. You too Magnus. Greg, let me know when you get it going in the fall, I would love to join you and get schooled - you gave our little band of warriors a level of Cred by joint in with your thoughts. Ed, thanks for the Edward Break. I used it with 600 to go for a 4-5 strokes. I'm not where I want to be yet but I suppose that's the beauty of it. I think I am going to try to PP 5K plan and get more going middle distance.

Glenn, good job on your new PB. The close call of 3.5 secs as well as the nice negative splits speak for my opinion that you are good for sub-7. This close it also comes down to a question of daily form. But it´s good to build more strength and confidence and some work on middle distance will certainly do some good, combined with Henrys advice to do some fast work once a week. I am totally in agreement that we had a very special team going here with you being inspirator and founder. I see every reason for a restart maybe in the fall. Let´s keep in touch by posting training results in the general area and I will send you a PM with my C2-training-ID.

[G-dub]

Thanks partner. I needed to get this one over with. I spent way too much energy the last couple of weeks worrying about it. I also admit that I need more endurance, so I'm cool with where things ended up. At least the average split has a 45 in it!

[jackarabit]

Glenn, if you had low expectations of yourself, you'd never fail! That's the dodge I use. It's a current PB and a new launch point on a new river. Let's have a beer on that!

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Thanks to Glenn for offering us the opportunity to "find out what we're good for" as Henry put it. Thanks to Greg, Bob, Henry, and Edward for the painfully-accurate critiques of daily workouts, the comp tricks and tips, and the sympathetic ears. Thanks to Jim Grattan for doubting we'd stick it for a week. Thanks to the fellows for tolerating a long-winded old fool. Gentlemen all! Jack

[G-dub]

Glenn, if you had low expectations of yourself, you'd never fail! That's the dodge I use. It's a current PB and a new launch point on a new river. Let's have a beer on that!

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Thanks to Glenn for offering us the opportunity to "find out what we're good for" as Henry put it. Thanks to Greg, Bob, Henry, and Edward for the painfully-accurate critiques of daily workouts, the comp tricks and tips, and the sympathetic ears. Thanks to Jim Grattan for doubting we'd stick it for a week. Thanks to the fellows for tolerating a long-winded old fool. Gentlemen all! Jack

I love that crack on Jim whatever it takes to motivate yourself to do this crazy stuff, eh? And don't you worry, I'm having plenty of beer! 7:03 looks way better in the bottom line than 7:08.

[jackarabit]

I raise my bottle of Shiner Bock, Spoetzl Brewery, Shiner TX to the successful conclusion of our voyage! [I do not receive compensation for sourcing this training supplement. ]

[kacken66]

Glenn, congrats to you! Great job and result
Agree, hope we can keep contact in the forum. Its been a pleasure to train with you all, get feedback and support and maybe shared som experience

[Bob S.]

Congratulations, Glenn. Good job!

And thanks to the three enthusiastic ergateers who have done a lot to liven up this form over the recent weeks. It has been a delight to see it full of a friendly exchange of ideas and good-natured banter. Quite a contrast to some of the rancorous episodes in the past. Hang in the with it guys and show us jaded, old-time members how to make a forum sparkle.

Thanks again,

Bob S.

[G-dub]

So with those kind words from the legend himself, we will now close this thread and bust into the "training today" thread and continue to drive you all nuts!

[hjs]

Started Pete Plan 5K training: 3 x 2K

1st: 2:10 with some pops intermingled
2nd: 1:45.8 (7:03.4)
3rd: 2:30

Splits:
1: 1:46.7, 31 SPM (sorry Henry)
2: 1:46.1, 31 SPM
3: 1:46.0, 32 SPM
4: 144.7, 34 SPM

Thanks Guys. It feels great to have a new time. Henry, not sure if you meant to but you 1) made sure I was realistic and 2) got me just chapped enough to want to prove you wrong, while still keeping it real. Galeere and Jack, since we are on swan songs, I will miss the sharing. You are great mates. You too Magnus. Greg, let me know when you get it going in the fall, I would love to join you and get schooled - you gave our little band of warriors a level of Cred by joint in with your thoughts. Ed, thanks for the Edward Break. I used it with 600 to go for a 4-5 strokes. I'm not where I want to be yet but I suppose that's the beauty of it. I think I am going to try to PP 5K plan and get more going middle distance.

why sorry, looks very nice, If I remember I thought try to stay below 1.47, you did and not much left so looks like a very nice 2k TT

[G-dub]

Ha! I thought you meant not to go below 1:47 and I was thinking "well screw that!" Yes, in retrospect it was as good as I could do on the day. I was pretty smooth with it and really didn't have much more to throw at it at the end. If you would endulge me, what would you recommend I do next or where do I go from here? I obviously am better from 2K to shorter than 2K to longer. Would training the thing I am not as good at (longer distances) be better than trying to build more power (and endurance)? In other words, would it make sense to maximize the part that I have and get to my goal from that side of it? If so, I would get in the weight room and stay with the sprint and endurance intervals.

[hjs]

Ha! I thought you meant not to go below 1:47 and I was thinking "well screw that!" Yes, in retrospect it was as good as I could do on the day. I was pretty smooth with it and really didn't have much more to throw at it at the end. If you would endulge me, what would you recommend I do next or where do I go from here? I obviously am better from 2K to shorter than 2K to longer. Would training the thing I am not as good at (longer distances) be better than trying to build more power (and endurance)? In other words, would it make sense to maximize the part that I have and get to my goal from that side of it? If so, I would get in the weight room and stay with the sprint and endurance intervals.

Maybe I mistyped meant keep 147 on the pm, not slower.

2k is mostly aerobic, rowing 1.45 is not a problem, doing it long enough is. You should build up on your longer work. I think for you a focus on 10 could help. People with relative good speed don,t have to worry much about loosing that.
Mix it up, but do include lower rated work. Around 21/22 is a good rate. Maybe once per week some longer interval work.
But in general keep it aerobic, pace longer ergs, 30/60 min, roughly at 2k plus 18/22.

[jackarabit]

Time to reread Bob Spenger's examination of the semantics of pace stated as time/distance (T/.5k). Higher, lower? Above, below? Faster, slower is the only safe bet! I did understand Henry to mean: Never see a stroke that would produce average pace slower than 147 (1:47+). This problem never raises its ugly head with pace given as distance/time (mph or kph). In most contexts bigger or more numerous signifies superiority. In a TT, less is more!