6:28 2K

[ranger]

Wanna bet you don,t post any

Do I wanna bet that I don't post any 8 x 500m (3:30 rest) workouts?

Sure.

How much?

How about $2000?

That would double our bet.

As I said, I suspect I'll be doing 8 x 500m (at various speeds) a couple of times a week now, starting easily and then getting faster and faster.

Then I like to mix in 1Ks here and there, and then throughout, at the same speed.

After resting a bit today, tomorrow might be a nice time to start.

ranger

[snowleopard]

I'll shoot for 1:34 to start off.

Why not see if you can do 1:38 first, eh?

Anyway, I look forward to seeing your post of a timed piece tomorrow. You have promised so much and as an ex world champ and ex record holder I'm sure you will be as good as your word.

[ranger]

I'll shoot for 1:34 to start off.

Why not see if you can do 1:38 first, eh?

Sure.

I'll build up to 1:34.

I will want to get to 1:34 before I try a 2K trial.

ranger

[ranger]

I'm sure you will be as good as your word.

Words don't have anything to do with rowing.

Words can be discouraging, encouraging, inspirational, frustrating, etc., but in the end, they are all irrelevant.

I pulled 6:29 in 2006, when I was 55, without any hard distance rowing or sharpening, and while still struggling with technique.

Now that I have fixed my technique, I'll now be working my time down from there, as I add hard distance rowing and sharpening.

Words have nothing to do with it.

Rowing is all about technique and training.

I usually get a dozen seconds each from (1) hard distance rowing and (2) full sharpening.

The WR in my age and weight division is 6:38.

In 2011, it wil be 6:42.

ranger

[mjl]

Rowing is all about technique and training.

Care to share any other insights, Professor Obvious? I mean seriously, do you think we're stupid? I know you like to belittle people, but what kind of ego do you have?

Also, I have one name for you - Pertti Karppinen. Nobody can outshine his out of retirement sub 6 2k. In his mid 40s. Not even your magical number of 6:16, which, why not just pull for 6:10 as long as you're picking something out of thin air and not doing anything to prove you're near it.

[NavigationHazard]

If you're referring to a 5:52 that Karpinnen supposedly rowed a few years back, most often reported at the age of 52, it never happened. Somehow World Rowing News mistakenly attached his PB to his then-current age.

Karpinnen did do a 6:14.5 as a 50-year-old in the Finnish Championships in 2003, for which see the C2 Finland site at http://www.finnrowing.com/index.php?ind ... 00m_Miehet.

[ausrwr]

Like everyone else, I'll bet you won't post 8*500 @ 1:34 on 3:30 rest.

Because you can't.

Because, for example, doing all your training at r28 is moronic. Like just about everything else you do.

You don't sharpen for a year. No one does.

You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.

How can a man who is so smart be so damn stupid?

I have no illusions to my intelligence, or general lack of it, actually.

Perhaps you might consider that your academic brilliance may not transfer to your analysis of "rowing".

I am also taking bets that you will not show at the Lansing head race.

[DUThomas]

September 26, 7:41am

A 6:28 at the end of the month this year, before I start hard sharpening, will show the same thing.
ranger

September 26, 4:27pm

Sure.

I'll build up to 1:34.

I will want to get to 1:34 before I try a 2K trial.
ranger

Awww, man! Now I'm getting disillusioned. I was at the edge of my seat this morning thinking that a 2K was merely days away, but, not even nine hours later, I sense that you're backing off. Please don't disappoint your fans!

[snowleopard]

I'm sure you will be as good as your word.

Words don't have anything to do with rowing.

Words? Who said anything about words? Words are just hollow talk. I was talking about "your word", singular. As in, following the promise with some hardcore proof.

Does your word have anything to with rowing, or are you just an empty bag of words?

[hjs]

Wanna bet you don,t post any

Do I wanna bet that I don't post any 8 x 500m (3:30 rest) workouts?

Sure.

How much?

How about $2000?

That would double our bet.

As I said, I suspect I'll be doing 8 x 500m (at various speeds) a couple of times a week now, starting easily and then getting faster and faster.

Then I like to mix in 1Ks here and there, and then throughout, at the same speed.

After resting a bit today, tomorrow might be a nice time to start.

ranger

2000$ is fine by me, that would make your debt 3k overal. I would not double or bet.

I won the one bet.

The second one is running

This would the third.

But nowing you are easy to admit a loss, I would like to involve a 3th party who would safely our money. After all you know as well As I that that you are not able to pay up and certainly not willing. So that has to be before to get you out off the way.
After al It took you weeks to pay up even a cheap hat and the lost bet you ow me is not payed after half a year.
The exact rules also need to be set. just posting a 8 x 1.45/500 m is not enough It should be in line with your claims.

[ranger]

2000$ is fine by me

Sure.

Happy to oblige.

I'll be doing 8 x 500m a couple of times a week from now on out until WIRC.

How fast will I do 500s?

Beats me.

I will start pretty easy (1:37?)--and build up to 1:31 (I hope!).

I'm not sure how this will turn out in terms of an exact schedule.

What happens depends on my body, not me.

And the body is a mysterious affair!

ranger

[ranger]

If I can bring my rowing sessions (both on the erg and OTW) up to two hours, the workouts I am doing now become perfect.

1 hour erg (AT)

1 hour erg (AN)

(breakfast)

2 hour bike (UT2)

2 hour OTW (UT1)

This is a professional regimen.

I'll try 18K OTW today to see what it feels like.

My patience is improving, as is my steadiness.

Nice to done with my work on technique.

ranger

[hjs]

I'll be doing 8 x 500m a couple of times a week from now on out until WIRC.

How fast will I do 500s?
Beats me.
I will start pretty easy (1:37?)--and build up to 1:31 (I hope!).

ranger

Ahh finally a post that makes sense

Although it's very strange that a man of your age still doesn,t know what his body can do.

I will give you a hint, the last few years you started you racing around 7.00 pace, if we take the 2k min 3 rule that will give you a 1.42 for the 500 meters.

If you row around 6.44 at peak form/1.41 that will be 1.38

So your pretty "easy" goal will turn out to be pretty hard, so you are not able to show any

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[ranger]

just posting a 8 x 1.45/500 m is not enough

Sure.

1:45 @ 28 spm (11 SPI) is just my standard distance stroke these days.

When all is said and done this year, I think I'll do a continuous 20K with it, not 4K with 25 minutes rest.

In 2003, I did 9K @ 1:45.

I am quite a bit better than that now.

I am also trying to hold 28 spm in my head race training OTW.

No more low rate rowing.

No need.

I now row well.

ranger

[hjs]

I am quite a bit better than that now.

ranger

I think this sentence needs a bit of explaining for the newbees


It means, this year I will slow down just like I did in the years before.